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Royal train Overkill

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 15:41
by Illegal_Alien
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/74/k ... 50bzm8.jpg

Usualy only 2 engines :P (Wasnt the queen though but the minister of traffic and waterthings.)

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 15:44
by DeletedUser21
My dad thinks that it is because if 1 loc is sabotaged that there are still others to take over.

It will have a lot of power tough. :P

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 15:46
by Griff
lol, interesting that. All those locos and only one carriage.
Though its not as nice as the British one, IMHO
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ...DWL.JPG

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 15:50
by DeletedUser21
3 carriages to be exact. :wink:

e-loc | Carriage | Royal Coach | Carriage | e-loc | e-loc | e-loc :wink:

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 15:51
by Griff
Oh yeah...
They looked like locos at first glance.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 16:07
by NitrousX
About 12000 kilowatts of power (4000/5000 each)

And that for 3 wagons :D

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 16:14
by Illegal_Alien
Well, what i do know that if they would have all the pantographs up the catenary would melt :P

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 17:08
by Dave
British Royal Train is Top/Tailed, as are most railtours.

It's in case one of the engines fails.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 17:10
by Ameecher
And also for when it heads off branch lines which don't have run round loops. That way it can head back out without a problem.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 17:17
by Visscher
Normally the dutch royal train also has top/tail engines, this train has two extra engines, suspect it to be a transfer.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 17:28
by chevyrider
Illegal_Alien wrote:Well, what i do know that if they would have all the pantograph's up the catenary would melt :P
Only one Lok 1600 can pull at the same time.
In multiple use, like 2 X DDAR there is only one of the two electro engines working per lok.
Due the 1800 V dc system, 3 fully accelerating loks will pull down the voltage of the catenary under neath 1000 V.
On that moment the system goes down for some seconds, till everybody takes back power needs.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 17:28
by Dave
It might be an ECS move, in which case (at least in Britain) some locos are hauled DIT or DOR (Dead in Transit or Dead on Rear) to move them around without the need to take up a costly part of the timetable.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 18:19
by SM9T8
jpmaster wrote:lol, interesting that. All those locos and only one carriage.
Though its not as nice as the British one, IMHO
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ...DWL.JPG
I thought the British Royal Train was axed

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 18:34
by Purno
Mr. X wrote:3 carriages to be exact. :wink:

e-loc | Carriage | Royal Coach | Carriage | e-loc | e-loc | e-loc :wink:
As additional information, these carriages are first class carriages. b******, second class are already comfy enough.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 19:43
by Hyronymus
I suspect the 4 engines are required to run at some speed at all under 25kV engines. After all, these engines are able yo tun on 1500V only.

Posted: 27 Mar 2007 20:42
by andel
Emohawk wrote:
jpmaster wrote:lol, interesting that. All those locos and only one carriage.
Though its not as nice as the British one, IMHO
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ...DWL.JPG
I thought the British Royal Train was axed
Runs under contract with EWS with two class 67's running with MK3s.

Re: Royal train Overkill

Posted: 28 Mar 2007 10:38
by uzurpator
Illegal_Alien wrote:http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/74/k ... 50bzm8.jpg

Usualy only 2 engines :P (Wasnt the queen though but the minister of traffic and waterthings.)
Typical consist in TTD for many players. What is the problem?

Posted: 04 Apr 2007 07:22
by WWW
andel wrote: Runs under contract with EWS with two class 67's running with MK3s.
I was under the impression that there was a MK2 in there as well? or am I wrong?

Re: Royal train Overkill

Posted: 04 Apr 2007 07:37
by Pookey
uzurpator wrote:
Illegal_Alien wrote:http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/74/k ... 50bzm8.jpg

Usualy only 2 engines :P (Wasnt the queen though but the minister of traffic and waterthings.)
Typical consist in TTD for many players. What is the problem?
The oddness is that it's not...common for that sort of thing in real life.

Posted: 04 Apr 2007 14:00
by NitrousX
chevyrider wrote:
Illegal_Alien wrote:Well, what i do know that if they would have all the pantograph's up the catenary would melt :P
Only one Lok 1600 can pull at the same time.
In multiple use, like 2 X DDAR there is only one of the two electro engines working per lok.
Due the 1800 V dc system, 3 fully accelerating loks will pull down the voltage of the catenary under neath 1000 V.
On that moment the system goes down for some seconds, till everybody takes back power needs.
And when that happens with a new IRM regirunner consist the relaisbox goes mad and the whole thing goes up into smoke like a couple of weeks ago :P