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OTTD 5.0

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 04:54
by Psylent_Knight
Ok fellas, i downloaded Ottd around 9 months ago (V2.6??) when the A.I. was still crap. And only test, Dose 5.0 have decient A.I??

Can anyone confirm that its fixed in the latest version??

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 05:09
by Redirect Left
OpenTTD 0.5.0 RC3 AI is slightly improved from original TTD, i am not aware how much it has progressed through versions though.

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 05:15
by Psylent_Knight
well the last version i played had the options of "smart ai road vehicals only (test)"

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 05:33
by DaleStan
If you've got version 5.0, (or even 2.6), can you please post it? The devs are doing an excellent job of keeping us all under the impression that the current version is 0.5.0, and that even 1.0 is two or three years in the future.

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 05:37
by Psylent_Knight
Soz, It was an older version of OTTD. And i was asking about 0.5.0 and weather it has better A.I.

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 06:42
by Redirect Left
I believe the Road Vehicle part is improved, not sure of other asepcts.

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 07:06
by gigajum
Captain Kirk wrote:I believe the Road Vehicle part is improved, not sure of other asepcts.
Improved yes, but far away from a good ai, imo. And that only road vehicles work is another disadvantage to a good ai.
Rfalke said he cares about making it better then it is currently. See http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29643. But unfortunately he has not posted a diff file to test it for bugs or give other improvements.

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 19:49
by Ailure
Captain Kirk wrote:OpenTTD 0.5.0 RC3 AI is slightly improved from original TTD, i am not aware how much it has progressed through versions though.
Actually depends on which AI you talk about. The orginal AI have actually gotten dumber compared to the orginal TTD for some reason, due to some bugs it keeps getting. There's a new AI as well that is much better but for some reason stops working after a few years.

Posted: 15 Jan 2007 21:18
by Psylent_Knight
The version i have has an option in, Smart AI (alpha), when you click it it say road vehicals only, this is only a test and may crash etc.

So it there any smart ai patches out there??

Posted: 16 Jan 2007 05:05
by accipiter2000
i dont care about AI, since it is too weak and hard to improve.
and it is noisy to see rubbish contruction everywhere.

Posted: 16 Jan 2007 12:56
by SirkoZ
The road vehicle AI has been improved for quite some time now (read ~ 1 year) or since or around 0.4.0.x.
Not much happening there... I'm sure even if there had been any patch it wouldn't be included anyways - I think there was one for trains but really long ago...

Posted: 16 Jan 2007 22:50
by init
accipiter2000 wrote:i dont care about AI, since it is too weak and hard to improve.
and it is noisy to see rubbish contruction everywhere.
I agree. I never play against the AI, since it is just too dumb, and I understand that creating a smart AI is a hard problem. If I would want to play against a competotor, I would play against a real human in multiplayer mode. Remember, no AI is even close to a human being when it comes to intelligence.

Posted: 16 Jan 2007 23:15
by Psylent_Knight
I take it you guys run game servers then?

If so, what site/required version do you use?

Posted: 17 Jan 2007 00:26
by Dave
init wrote:
accipiter2000 wrote:i dont care about AI, since it is too weak and hard to improve.
and it is noisy to see rubbish contruction everywhere.
I agree. I never play against the AI, since it is just too dumb, and I understand that creating a smart AI is a hard problem. If I would want to play against a competotor, I would play against a real human in multiplayer mode. Remember, no AI is even close to a human being when it comes to intelligence.
The AI is a quintessential part of TTD though.

And actually, I like playing with the AI, in both TTDP and OTTD. It makes for an interesting game.

Posted: 17 Jan 2007 05:47
by accipiter2000
Psylent_Knight wrote:I take it you guys run game servers then?

If so, what site/required version do you use?
everyone can build a new game as a server, and you can find other servers too. just try multi-player mode.

Posted: 17 Jan 2007 09:14
by init
Dave Worley wrote:The AI is a quintessential part of TTD though.
I don't agree, but that may be because I always turn it off the first thing I do after I build a new version of OpenTTD. I mostly play alone, it is fun enough for me.

Posted: 17 Jan 2007 12:30
by Dave
init wrote:
Dave Worley wrote:The AI is a quintessential part of TTD though.
I don't agree, but that may be because I always turn it off the first thing I do after I build a new version of OpenTTD. I mostly play alone, it is fun enough for me.
Fair point but which other game's AI would be so bad that it's actually funny?

The original TTD was so laughably funny.