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T-Junctions

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 09:32
by prateek.somaiya
Hey Folks
I am very fond of junctions so I'm starting this thread, let's share our very best junctions here.
I have just created a T-Junction and I'm still testing its performance.
Note: It does not support U-Turns.

It would be a great idea to have a junction competition, what say?

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 09:45
by SirkoZ
Welcome to the Forum!

I say keep it simple and as compact as possible.

Junction you've posted looks nice, but works less nicely - you got quite a few very short 45° turns there - so the trains are limited at 88 km/h.

For any kind of junction you just have to use longer 45° turns (3 squares) and you're set. :)

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 12:33
by prateek.somaiya
SirkoZ wrote:You got quite a few very short 45° turns there - so the trains are limited at 88 km/h.
Hey SirkoZ
Thanks for the correction, well I have modified the junction to accomodate higher speeds.
I actually started making this with the Electric Engines but then realized that there will a speed lag in MegLev so I designed two versions of the same junction.
The min. speed for the first one is around 276 kmph, and for the second one is around 330 kmph.
I tested it with MagLev Lev4 with 8 Empty Coal Wagons.


BTW the speed reduction depends on the weight anf turns, because when I tried 45 degree turns only with the engine it didn't show any speed reduction. With 1 Coal wagon it showed slight speed reduction and as I increase the wagons the reduction increases.

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 12:55
by SirkoZ
The lower one is good although it has one 45° turn 2-square long...

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 14:28
by prateek.somaiya
Hmmm..
I think this one is better than the above ones, I tested it with MagLev Lev4 with 6 Coal Wagons, there is no speed reduction!!!

Actually the way it works is that your train should not take a turn while it is already completing a turn, if this happens the train's speed will be reduced. It doesnt matter that you have 3 square 45 degree turn or a 2 square 45 degree turn, it's just that the train should fit in it.

The key here is that the length your train should be at least 1/2 the length of the shortest straight path available, if this is the case, there would be no speed reduction.

The only drawback I see in this junction is that it takes up a lot of space (17x18 tiles).

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 16:26
by C-Funky
thats a total waste os space, this line switching junction should have no speed limit and is much smaller:

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 17:10
by prateek.somaiya
C-Funky wrote:thats a total waste os space, this line switching junction should have no speed limit and is much smaller:
Hey C-Funky
That's a nice junction, but try running 6-8 length trains (Mono-Rail / MagLev) then you will see the difference. You wont see the speed reduction in Classic / Electric rail because the max speed these rails can gain is not more than 240 I guess, you will see a reduction only when you are at speeds of more then 300-400 kmph.

For the Classic / Electrics the junction I posted in the begining of this thread would do with just a fractional speed reduction and this junction occupies very less space. In fact that is the most compact I junction I've ever made.

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 17:19
by C-Funky
owen's half clover leaf is the most compact junction...

well anyway between size and speed loss you're last version of the junction is just too huge for a simple one track t junction...

Posted: 23 Jun 2006 21:45
by fabca2
prateek.somaiya wrote:Hmmm..
I think this one is better than the above ones.
I really don't understand why you go so far, see my version of you Tjunction, no need to make your path so long and around the whole junction ;)
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 21:54
by XeryusTC
fabca2 wrote:
prateek.somaiya wrote:Hmmm..
I think this one is better than the above ones.
I really don't understand why you go so far, see my version of you Tjunction, no need to make your path so long and around the whole junction ;)
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The problem is that you will need to make the other line longer then to keep speed at both tracks, or you might even need a second tunnel to get on the outside so you have enough space.

Posted: 24 Jun 2006 10:19
by prateek.somaiya
fabca2 wrote:I really don't understand why you go so far, see my version of you Tjunction, no need to make your path so long and around the whole junction ;)
The one you are suggesting is indeed a smaller junction but as XeryusTC said to maintain speed, we need to have a longer junction, speed is everything mate...

Posted: 25 Jun 2006 06:17
by sc79
For the Classic / Electrics the junction I posted in the begining of this thread would do with just a fractional speed reduction and this junction occupies very less space.
The sharpest corners have a max speed of 88km/h. Depending on the set you're using, this might be ok for very early years and some freight trains (if you have wagon speedlimits on), but generally its a design which you'll want to avoid; if only so you dont have to redesign every juction a few years down the track.

But if you're using short freight trains in a spot with limited space, it certainly works :)