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Posted: 09 May 2005 13:47
by Wile E. Coyote
Sanchimaru wrote:Also, the sprites you have linked to the early mineral hopper seem to me to be best fitting for the mineral hopper (more downwards) Those early hoppers are really tiny...
I think there is no that hopper in tracking table at all :wink: It's dumper hopper.
And here's 319 Retales loco:

Posted: 09 May 2005 14:42
by krtaylor
I think you are not happy with the placing of some of the sprites in the table, but I am not clear on what you want me to do.

I think some of these trains, particularly the locos, could use some more shading/randomizing.

Posted: 09 May 2005 20:28
by Wile E. Coyote
krtaylor wrote:I think you are not happy with the placing of some of the sprites in the table, but I am not clear on what you want me to do.
I just suggested for hopper to put it in tracking table, because it's Spanish, and it's not in tracking table.
krtaylor wrote:I think some of these trains, particularly the locos, could use some more shading/randomizing.
Thanx for suggestions. :D I put them here, and every suggestion is welcome and improves everybody's work (including mine, of course) and every set. I'm glad to know my mistakes and I'll try to correct them ASAP.

Posted: 09 May 2005 20:36
by krtaylor
I think I have everything that's been posted, already in the tracking table. Can you take another look, and if I missed something, point it out to me? Thanks.

Posted: 09 May 2005 20:41
by Wile E. Coyote
I think Sanchimaru means that 2-axle hopper is 1950's mineral hopper, but you put it as 1920's mineral hopper. But it's not that hopper, it's hopper on photo on previous page, and it's not in table (see opening bottom).

Posted: 09 May 2005 21:21
by krtaylor
Now maybe we are getting a little closer. You mean the hopper that I have with the early (1920) mineral hopper, which on my server is file named u-zz.gif, is not from the 1920s but actually is from the 1950s? OK, I can change that.

Posted: 11 May 2005 00:11
by Sanchimaru
Hola!

I've been working in the 030 Cockerill. Here it is now, let me hear any suggestions about it.

Posted: 11 May 2005 00:24
by krtaylor
I would need to see it in the game to be sure, but I think it is too fat, and not detailed enough to get a good look at it.

Posted: 11 May 2005 01:27
by Sanchimaru
Hm, I can't give it more detal at this moment... and if we make it be any slimmer, I think it will be unrecognizable... I'd like to ask the opinion of people with more experience: DanMack has a lot of great steamers over there, but those are big ones. SingaporeKid, the m45t3r of st34m3r5, have you any advice here? and of course, recently Michael Blunck joined, it would be a honor to get some hints from him.

I have slightly retouched it (almost nothing) and added two liveries: In some documentation I've found about the 030 there are different models; very similar, but not the same. They are in black and yellow livery

Posted: 11 May 2005 03:26
by krtaylor
I guess what I'm saying is, it's too squat. I mean, it's too wide in proportion to its height.

Posted: 11 May 2005 03:45
by Sanchimaru
ah, ok, I'll try to add 1 pixel later. But still no hint about the detailing...

Posted: 11 May 2005 04:44
by krtaylor
Actually I think you might do better to remove one pixel, from the width, so as to make it narrower.

Posted: 12 May 2005 02:12
by Sanchimaru
This is the version 1 pixel narrower.

Posted: 12 May 2005 02:50
by krtaylor
OK, now it needs lighter shading on the sun side. But I think you got the shape anyway.

Posted: 14 May 2005 00:57
by Sanchimaru
A bit of bright added to the sun side of the Cockerill.

Also began working on passenger cars. This is the set for 1920 long distance cars: normal passenger car, cinema car, and baggage car

Posted: 14 May 2005 02:38
by krtaylor
Well... maybe... :? I guess this one's a toughie.

Posted: 14 May 2005 02:53
by Sanchimaru
why don't we leave it as it is right now, and see if after some other work is done we can improve this, or someone else comes up with a better bersion?

Posted: 14 May 2005 14:47
by krtaylor
OK. Moving right along, what's next?

Posted: 14 May 2005 22:45
by Sanchimaru
Next are passenger and mail cars. These are mostly all of them...
Since the model is the same, only slight livery changes, I did them all in a moment. However there are yet some details to be added, but here they are.
I'm not sure about the dates yet; we'll have to ask our contacts in Spain. I'm not sure how were these liveries used (main line, regionals, etc...)
I need to know if I'm missing any important livery, to add it.

Posted: 14 May 2005 23:10
by krtaylor
Definitely we need generational, date, and usage information on these.