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Snail wrote:Another question, what happened to your Sugar Cane (SGCN)?

• it's out of date
• it can only be published when there's a FIRS release
• I have no interest in testing vehicle sets to maintain it

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Vehicle Set Support
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Furthermore you need a vehicle set that supports the FIRS cargos. Any vehicle
set with proper Cargo Classes support should do that by default. The OpenTTD
vehicles will not be able to transport all FIRS cargos. The following sets
available from the OpenTTD built-in download manager are known to support FIRS:
- Train Sets:
  - 2cc Train Set
  - North American Renewal Set (NARS) 2
  - Old Wagons with New Cargos 1.1
  - UK Renewal Train Set v3
  - DB Set XL (with FIRS extension - partial support)
  - UK Railway Set (UKRS2)
  - OpenGFX+ Trains
  - Iron horse
- Road Vehicle Sets:
  - eGRVTS v1.0
  - HEQS (Heavy Equipment Set)
  - OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles
  - Road Hog
- Ship sets
  - Squid (FISH 2)
  - New Ships (partial support)
- Plane Sets
 - AV8
 - GeneralAv8ion
 - Plane Set

andythenorth wrote:

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  - eGRVTS v1.0

andythenorth wrote:I am removing this vehicle set list from the FIRS online docs.

• it's out of date
• it can only be published when there's a FIRS release
• I have no interest in testing vehicle sets to maintain it

It might be worthwhile moving it to the OpenTTD wiki (and updating it). I won't do that. If anyone does want to, I can link the wiki from the FIRS docs. Let me know here.

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-------------------
Vehicle Set Support
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Furthermore you need a vehicle set that supports the FIRS cargos. Any vehicle
set with proper Cargo Classes support should do that by default. The OpenTTD
vehicles will not be able to transport all FIRS cargos. The following sets
available from the OpenTTD built-in download manager are known to support FIRS:
- Train Sets:
  - 2cc Train Set
  - North American Renewal Set (NARS) 2
  - Old Wagons with New Cargos 1.1
  - UK Renewal Train Set v3
  - DB Set XL (with FIRS extension - partial support)
  - UK Railway Set (UKRS2)
  - OpenGFX+ Trains
  - Iron horse
- Road Vehicle Sets:
  - eGRVTS v1.0
  - HEQS (Heavy Equipment Set)
  - OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles
  - Road Hog
- Ship sets
  - Squid (FISH 2)
  - New Ships (partial support)
- Plane Sets
 - AV8
 - GeneralAv8ion
 - Plane Set

• Updated translations (thanks translators)
• Improved online docs http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/rel ... arted.html
• Renamed Manufacturing Supplies to Packaging, to avoid confusion between this ordinary cargo and Engineering Supplies / Farm Supplies, which have special behaviour
• Remove Packaging from all economies except Extreme (makes for much more satisfying gameplay in Basic economies)
• Remove Packaging from Furniture Factory and Textile Mill
• Detect OGFX+Industries as an incompatible grf (Alberth)
• Rename Fertiliser and Explosives Plant to Ammonia Plant (much shorter eh)
• Adjust industry map colours
• Adjust cargo weights, payment rates
• Adjust order of economies in parameters menu (breaks savegames)

andythenorth wrote:

• Renamed Manufacturing Supplies to Packaging, to avoid confusion between this ordinary cargo and Engineering Supplies / Farm Supplies, which have special behaviour

Brumi wrote:What about strings like "To keep this level, deliver {SIGNED_WORD} crates of supplies within three months."? Do any of these refer to Manufacturing Supplies?

Marvinyo wrote:I'm barely new to OpenTTD but very new to FIRS, so maybe this is a stupid question, or already addressed: Is it possible somehow to use all 63 cargoes, and 80 industries at the same time? Or is there a game "core" limitation for this? (I'm thinking sadly the latter, because ECS also has maximum 31 industries.

Marvinyo wrote:I'm barely new to OpenTTD but very new to FIRS, so maybe this is a stupid question, or already addressed: Is it possible somehow to use all 63 cargoes, and 80 industries at the same time?

Marvinyo wrote:Suggestion: Is it possible to give all "water-based" industry (Bulk terminal, Fishing Grounds, Fishing Harbour, etc.) a dock (terminal?) for ships? Just like Shoals or Sandbanks.

Darthrafael wrote:1. Is the fact that none of the new cargoes appear on ISR's station tiles the fault of ISR not having received an update yet, or is there another reason?

Darthrafael wrote:2. How come the map generation can place coastal industries (Ports, Bulk Terminals, etc.) in places I can't

andythenorth wrote:

Darthrafael wrote:2. How come the map generation can place coastal industries (Ports, Bulk Terminals, etc.) in places I can't

Agreed. These industries are really hard to place, I often have trouble. I thought it was improved 2 years ago http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/7064 but it seems not.

The coast shape has to be exactly right, and even then sometimes I can't get some orientations to build. I haven't confirmed this, but sometimes bulldozing the coast tiles seems to help. I don't know if it's a FIRS bug, an OpenTTD bug, or not a bug at all

Darthrafael wrote:So far I've only noticed it in Steeltown (since it's the only Economy I've played so far in FIRS 3), so maybe it has something to do with that?

andythenorth wrote:

Darthrafael wrote:So far I've only noticed it in Steeltown (since it's the only Economy I've played so far in FIRS 3), so maybe it has something to do with that?

Nah, it's the same code for all economies

Can you paste screenshots of the NW and NE coasts where you are trying to place? Then I can try and reproduce and diagnose. I've definitely experienced similar issues, but have never pinned it down.

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