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Posted: 22 Oct 2004 07:12
by BobDendry
ttdx_artist: Nice work. I like them.
Hmmm. I've been sitting at school during sport time watching the train line next to the school for an idea of how some of the diesel trains look. I've got plenty of pics already but I found a few ones I haven't seen before. I'm doing a bit more research.

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 08:42
by ttdx_artist
has anyone here ever seen the Manildra Group Wheat Hoppers? They're huge! They have a 73.5t load, work that out to axel weight... 18.375t per axel, thats a big hopper! I took some pics at Bombadery/Nowra NSW at the Starch Factory, i could make one for the game, but it means that we would have to make it seperate to te other hoppers because of the size.

And on the subject... does anyone have pics that we could use of W44 Concentrate Train? I have models of the G, GP and high sided GP wagons but i don't know if i have the time while helping with the japset.

Here is the MGFH Wheat Hopper....

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 09:55
by Colonel32
Incredibly great graphics. Btw - you chose your nick correctly ;-))

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 11:11
by ttdx_artist
did i hear somebody say, "SYDNEY DOUBLE DECKERS"... well it must have been voises in my head then!

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 11:44
by ttdx_artist
now here's one for you kiddies...the SAR 930 Class...i know some of you where waiting for this one :wink: , i'll be reapinting it tomorrow in tuscan colours to make it into a NSWGR 44 Class as a second random livery...i might even do a FreightRail blue one also.

WAIT!!!! IF YOU COPIED THE FIRST ONE!!! THE BODY IS TOO SHORT!!! take the second one... i tried it in the game an it looks like the loco, expants and contracts when cornering, so i've fixed it... TAKE THIS ONE!!!

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 12:37
by BobDendry
Now those are great graphics! I'll have to agree with colonel32.

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 14:23
by ttdx_artist
banner?!?

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 15:38
by krtaylor
Nice. It's great to see this set coming along.

Personally, I prefer to see the older steam equipment, I think there's more variety there. But the modern Aussie stuff is interesting too because it is painted in such unusual colors.

I suppose your set will be available in the Temperate and Tropic environments, but not the Arctic?

Posted: 22 Oct 2004 15:50
by Singaporekid
krtaylor wrote:Personally, I prefer to see the older steam equipment, I think there's more variety there.
Yay, someone finally agrees with me

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 00:21
by ttdx_artist
a want to make the set available in all climates... i am thinking of doing a new land set for the arctic climate

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 00:23
by ChrisCF
In webmaster parlance, "banner" is a specific size - 468x60

Some of those graphics look nice though - should be great to see them in-game. :)

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 00:44
by mdhowe
ttdx_artist wrote:a want to make the set available in all climates... i am thinking of doing a new land set for the arctic climate
What type of landscape are you gonna draw, I reckon an outback style landscape would be good with red dirt and very sparse vegetation. That would be sweet!

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 01:15
by ttdx_artist
i'll find some typical australia landscape pics and post them on the forum, there isn't much railway in aus that is surrounded in red dirt tho, sorry.

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 01:22
by BobDendry
What about the WA/Interstate Rail. Would that go through a bit of desert?

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 01:53
by mdhowe
whitehandindustries wrote:What about the WA/Interstate Rail. Would that go through a bit of desert?
The Ghan & the Indian Pacific both go through the desert, I think an outback landscape would be awesome. And besides it is the most contrasting Australian landscape compared to the rest of the world, as well as the fact that the east coast landscape wouldn't look that much different to the current TTD temperate climate (apart from the trees and the colour of the grass).

Either way theres no reason why we cant do both, I just think that the outback would be the most interesting :)

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 02:15
by Lightglobe
Outback would be best since it is something which is just really very.....aussie. These trains are all looking brilliant, but it might be a good idea to work out what trains we are actually going to put into the set before doing to many more trains

We got to make sure we have good representation from all states when it comes to passenger transport. We also really need to get down the older steamers that we are gonna do at some point. After I've done my HSC(which I've only got 4 more tests to go) I plan on learning how to do nfo coding so I probably be able to help on the coding side of things.

Also, that banner is really nice, but Owen or a moderator might think it a little big for a signature. Maybe if you could downsize it a litte, that would be cool. This is already looking good and I'm just happy that an Australian set is going to be done.

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 02:32
by krtaylor
Somebody else has a sig that is very much like that, and it's no problem. I'd say you can leave it along unless a mod PMs you with a request that you change it.

Attempting to do a complete climate conversion is a LOT OF WORK. Nobody has ever successfully done it. The Japan project originally started out that way; now it's mostly just a trainset. It may grow back into a complete replacement over time, but I'm not holding my breath.

I strongly recommend that you do just the trains first, and pick the most appropriate climates to run them in as they are, which would mean, NOT the Arctic. Then, once the trains are released, and if you have the available resources and support, you start working on buildings, landscape, etc.

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 02:40
by Lightglobe
krtaylor wrote:Somebody else has a sig that is very much like that, and it's no problem. I'd say you can leave it along unless a mod PMs you with a request that you change it.
It's AEs. But thats not the point. The point is you are right. So don't worry about for now ttdx_artist
krtaylor wrote:I strongly recommend that you do just the trains first, and pick the most appropriate climates to run them in as they are
This is probably a good idea. Put all the work into getting the trains done so we can have people playing with great Australian trains. Then after, if we feel like it, we can continue by doing buildings and maybe a total conversion of a climate.

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 02:58
by ttdx_artist
i am going to write up a list tonight of the trains that would suit the set, i will post it hopefully tonight... and you all must remember that very little trains travel trough outback scenery in aus. from knowledge all that goes through the outback is hamersly iron ore trains, the ghan, the indian pacific (which is now the east west ghan), 2 container trains to darwin, that's about it... the only other thing that comes close would be mildura in Victoria where there is some wheat traffic... it isn't enough for an outback scenario, but if someone else want's to attempt it, be my guest.


Ok ppl, go here.... http://www.pip.com.au/~march/ that'll give you all a good idea of tipical australian railway scenery.

Posted: 23 Oct 2004 03:54
by ChrisCF
Lightglobe wrote:
krtaylor wrote:Somebody else has a sig that is very much like that, and it's no problem. I'd say you can leave it along unless a mod PMs you with a request that you change it.
It's AEs. But thats not the point. The point is you are right. So don't worry about for now ttdx_artist
Still, unless you only want the banner to show up in your sig and nowhere else, ever, shrink it down to stanrd banner size - 468x60.