FIRS Industry Replacement Set - releases

[FooBar]

What?

Never mind then. I suppose you downloaded a prebuilt version then

Why should a newGRF complain about a patchpack?

Patches may introduce bugs in the newgrf handling system. I apologise if my previous reply sounded a bit rude, but I just don't want to deal with FIRS not working in patchpacks. There's enough to do already...

Umm.... Okay...

That would be here then: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/firs/nightlies/
EDIT: Ah, you've found it.

r127 works in TPPP now, so that was NOT the problem.

No, in this case the problem was with the compile farm. Good to see it working in the patchpack as well. I'm still not supporting it though

[Benny]

Never mind then. I suppose you downloaded a prebuilt version then

I downloaded it from the link in the second post.

Patches may introduce bugs in the newgrf handling system. I apologise if my previous reply sounded a bit rude, but I just don't want to deal with FIRS not working in patchpacks. There's enough to do already...

Understandable.

Thanks again.

[Terkhen]

Started a new game in TPPP and I'm getting this error:

If you find a bug using TPPP, try to reproduce the same bug with vanilla trunk. If you can't reproduce it, report it only in the TPPP thread because then it is my problem . Anyways, this is not the case: this bug happens in trunk too.

[Benny]

Download r127.

[davidx123]

congratulation!now we can play with something like 15000 on a 64X64 map
only one problem.in the cement factory,there is sand as one of the requirements,but there is no sand pit(yet?)

[Roujin]

congratulation!now we can play with something like 15000 on a 64X64 map
only one problem.in the cement factory,there is sand as one of the requirements,but there is no sand pit(yet?)

The set is still under development. Parts may not be included yet or be buggy. Don't download this if you just want to play, it's for testing...

[andythenorth]

Recent additions to the nightly: Sand Pit, Fertiliser Plant, Plastics Plant. Also some code tweaks to Brewery and Waste Collection Point. (thanks FooBar for these)

[Roujin]

For myself, I made a little scenario which displays what cargo goes from where to where, a schema of sorts.

I thought I'd share it with you guys.

Version of OpenTTD I used is 16762 (yesterday's nightly), so you will need about the same revision of OpenTTD or a higher one to load it.
Version of FIRS used is nightly r150, so the stuff in the scenario might not be valid anymore (or missing things that got added) when new versions of FIRS get released.

[andythenorth]

For myself, I made a little scenario which displays what cargo goes from where to where, a schema of sorts.

Pretty cool

[Roujin]

Thanks andy


How does the recycling plant work? Does it need any special conditions to produce packaging?

In a test game, I'm delivering waste to a recycling plant, and have now built a line to transport packaging from it to a factory. The train is refitted to packaging and waiting (for full load) at the station, but nothing is produced.
Does it a) need engineering supplies for producing packaging?
b) need a certain amount of input before it produces packaging (and before it produces only scrap metal?) or any other fancy method of determining what to produce?

or is it c) a bug or d) NYI?

[FooBar]

15 items of waste should produce 1 item of packaging and 1 item of scrap metal. The other 13 items are evaporated. The industry only supplies when there are 5 items of a cargo, so you need to supply 75 items to get any output.

15 items of engineering supplies produce 1 item of each as well.


This behaviour will change with the future implementation of the production callback.

[Roujin]

15 items of waste should produce 1 item of packaging and 1 item of scrap metal. The other 13 items are evaporated. The industry only supplies when there are 5 items of a cargo, so you need to supply 75 items to get any output.[...]

At once? Or per month?

[andythenorth]

FooBar's been busy New in FIRS r170:
- Glassworks (I count three different layouts)
- Dairy Farm (again I count three layouts)
- Meat Packer (just the one layout)
- Bakery (two layouts counted by me)
Linky in the first page of the thread

[FooBar]

At once? Or per month?

As soon as you deliver the cargo. It does not produce on a monthly basis (yet).

[Roujin]

At once? Or per month?

As soon as you deliver the cargo. It does not produce on a monthly basis (yet).

Ah, this explains why it doesn't produce anything in my test - I was delivering waste to it with trucks, who of course cannot deliver >=75 units at once.
Looking forward to the future implementation then

FooBar's been busy New in FIRS r170: [...]

Nice, but I only see r160, not r170.
edit: now r170 is also there. Downloading

edit2: I've updated my reference savegame (man, that was a hassle, moving stuff around :/)

[NekoMaster]

Heh, this set is already good, truthfully I didnt expect to see a alpha or even a beta for a few months. So far some of the chains are completed or at least playable.

So far so good guys! Keep up the good work!

[andythenorth]

Nightly for r175 isn't available yet as I write this, but adds an Aluminium Plant. There is no bauxite mine for this, but it can be fed with scrap metal.

cheers,

Andy

[FooBar]

Nightly for r175 isn't available yet as I write this...

Yours truly failed to provide one yesterday night, as he got carried away with creating the OpenGFX 0.1.0alpha-5 release (which is due any minute now). I even dare say that there will be no r175 release, as I have the Machine Shop sprites sitting on my screen at the moment, so that one will be next

[FooBar]

I just gave you r179. Compared to the last nightly (r170) this gives you a Textile Mill, Furniture Factory, Aluminium Plant and Machine Shop.

I'm especially interested in what the Machine Shop does in game. This has some callback code that other industries don't have. There's a slight chance that it doesn't produce anything due to this code. I haven't tested that myself yet, so please let us know if it misbehaves


PS: I said that I won't be announcing nightlies, yet I still do. This time is an exception because I like to have something tested by you, the public.

[Roujin]

Well, I've just tested the Machine shop a bit and it seems to work well, no misbehaving as far as I can see
On both steel and aluminium input, it produced some farm supplies and some engineering supplies.

What about that text that it the machine shop builds and repairs engineering structures and machinery? That's just for flavor, isn't it?

I've updated my demonstration scenario of the FIRS cargo chains to r179, adding the four new industries in appropriate places. Needs recent nightly (r16777+) to run.