AIAI

[Lord Aro]

- Other updates to 1.1 NoAI API

i'm afraid this meaning this AI is now nightly only...

[deamonhunter11]

- Other updates to 1.1 NoAI API

i'm afraid this meaning this AI is now nightly only...

I just comfirmed that.

[Kogut]

Maybe I can downgrade it to 1.0 API

[Kogut]

After downgrade it is visible as AI but it crashes on

[Yexo]

Yes, that is documented in the [url="http://noai.openttd.org/docs/trunk/ai__ ... _8hpp.html']changelog[/ur]. In 1.1 IsEnd is added, it's not available in 1.0. HasNext is not available in 1.1 (however it is available in 1.1 if your AI uses the 1.0 api version).

[Kogut]

But not with 0.7 api (that is why I upgraded it). Anyway there is a lot to do before creating bananas quality of trains.

[Yexo]

HasNext should also be available for the 0.7 api compatibilty in 1.1. If it isn't that's a bug and you should report it at bugs.openttd.org

[planetmaker]

A small comment dedicated to this AI as based from my (short) competitive run with a number of other AIs: you won, you did very well!

Best areas of improvements now seem to be from this brief test: add train support and make use of them. AdmiralAI seems to spend much more money on re-structuring and building statues, expanding stations, which allows it to catch up.

Attached a screenshot which compares this AI with the best AI (AIAI) and the best train-using AI (simpleAI)

All in all: kudos, you did a great job

[Kogut]

Thanks!
Trains and statues are added/reworked in dev version, but train part still have many bugs/flaws/things that should be improved.

[Kogut]

Yes, that is documented in the [url="http://noai.openttd.org/docs/trunk/ai__ ... _8hpp.html']changelog[/ur]. In 1.1 IsEnd is added, it's not available in 1.0. HasNext is not available in 1.1 (however it is available in 1.1 if your AI uses the 1.0 api version).

No, AIAI 37 (1.0 api) crashes in trunk.

Anyway: 37 AIAI!

changelog
- smarter railway station construction
- bugfixes
- better rail pathfinder (updated choochoo's pf)
- better handling of newgrf railway station
- old TODOs done (including better chosing quantify of planes, better airport management)
- downgraded to 1.0 API

[Yexo]

Kogut: AIAI 37 runs fine in trunk (it only build 2 airports, but it didn't crash). If you really think there is a bug with HasNext in trunk then make a very small AI that crashes on it and create a bugreport with that AI attached on bugs.openttd.org.

[Kogut]

OK, in 29k61 it is working. (except that it refuses to construct smart trains) *investigates*
fixed!

(it only build 2 airports, but it didn't crash)

Freeze/money gathering/unprofitable planes?

[Lord Aro]

is it me, or is the latest version (38) not on bananas?

[Kogut]

is it me, or is the latest version (38) not on bananas?

Yes it require
- improvement(s) for strategy
- hunting for weird bug
- removing trains after industry clousure

[Lord Aro]

but why is the latest version on there only delta3? surely some of the epsilon versions could go on?

[Kogut]

but why is the latest version on there only delta3? surely some of the epsilon versions could go on?

No, because there are still flaws and one weird bug (train with 1 wagon and 13 engines). I send to Bananas only "stable" versions.

[Ruudjah]

I noticed jams due to the way you layout truck stations & depots. A better way which cannot cause jams at any time is to have the depot behind the drive-trhough station, using three orders:

• Full load station X
• Unload station Y
• Non-stop to depot X

After the truck has unloaded, it will pass through the laoding station non-stop, and enter the depot. It creates a 'black hole' within your network, therefore eliminating any possible jams.

Since a pic says more then thousand words, here goes:

[Kogut]

I noticed jams due to the way you layout truck stations & depots. A better way which cannot cause jams at any time is to have the depot behind the drive-trhough station, using three orders:

• Full load station X
• Unload station Y
• Non-stop to depot X

After the truck has unloaded, it will pass through the laoding station non-stop, and enter the depot. It creates a 'black hole' within your network, therefore eliminating any possible jams.

Since a pic says more then thousand words, here goes:

Thanks for idea!

[ostlandr]

That is a strategy I use in my games, especially when a vehicle has a long run and/or is set to "wait for full load."

For passengers and mail, I would use something like this:
[*]Non-stop to station A
[*]Non-stop to station B (no loading)
[*]Non-stop to depot X
[*]Non-stop to station B

This keeps the vehicle from being loaded with passengers/mail while being serviced. It also works for CargoDist.

Of course it also works for multiple station runs, like A-B-C-B-A(no load)-depot

I noticed jams due to the way you layout truck stations & depots. A better way which cannot cause jams at any time is to have the depot behind the drive-trhough station, using three orders:

• Full load station X
• Unload station Y
• Non-stop to depot X

After the truck has unloaded, it will pass through the laoding station non-stop, and enter the depot. It creates a 'black hole' within your network, therefore eliminating any possible jams.

Since a pic says more then thousand words, here goes:

[Lord Aro]

i realise development has paused( ) for AIAI, but i wish to report this bug with AIAI trains: