Purno's New Bridge Graphics

SkeedR · Post by **SkeedR** » 07 Jun 2007 16:48

Ok, after playing myself it seems that there are indeed problems with this lovely Bridge set and TTRS. Is there any way to have just this for rail? At all?

Please?

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » 07 Jun 2007 17:14

Would it be possible to keep Purno's railway bridges and TTRSv3's road bridges by simply using them both together, with TTRSv3 having higher priority?

SkeedR · Post by **SkeedR** » 07 Jun 2007 17:51

tried that, doesn't work, just shows normal TTD rail bridges. I was thinking, what about a parameter to disable Purno's road bridges?

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 07 Jun 2007 18:22

Weirdy wrote:tried that, doesn't work, just shows normal TTD rail bridges. I was thinking, what about a parameter to disable Purno's road bridges?

Bridge sprite configurations needs to be done per bridgetype. You can replace the original sprite order, or giving more sprites for a bridge, but all road, and railtype bridges sprites needs to be defined. So if you want to make a new approach for a bridge, but for only for road, like in ttrs3, you need to define the original sprites also. Then if you eject ttrs3 on purno`s new bridges, the ttrs3 defines back the purno`s new bridges, so as you saw it.
There would be two ways to solve thins problem: make compatible the sets, if one detects the other, the second should use a different sprite order. Also, support to define new bridges per road or railtype would be good in ttdpatch/OTTD. This would be the most clever option to solve this.

Digitalfox · Post by **Digitalfox** » 07 Jun 2007 20:01

thgergo wrote:
Weirdy wrote:tried that, doesn't work, just shows normal TTD rail bridges. I was thinking, what about a parameter to disable Purno's road bridges?
Bridge sprite configurations needs to be done per bridgetype. You can replace the original sprite order, or giving more sprites for a bridge, but all road, and railtype bridges sprites needs to be defined. So if you want to make a new approach for a bridge, but for only for road, like in ttrs3, you need to define the original sprites also. Then if you eject ttrs3 on purno`s new bridges, the ttrs3 defines back the purno`s new bridges, so as you saw it.
There would be two ways to solve thins problem: make compatible the sets, if one detects the other, the second should use a different sprite order. Also, support to define new bridges per road or railtype would be good in ttdpatch/OTTD. This would be the most clever option to solve this.

Does purno still care with this set??
If so, we should ask him, if he could update this set to be compatible..

But purno may have other things to do, so i hope he has some spare time to update this set..

For me this is a great set, and one i use in every game i play in openttd

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 07 Jun 2007 21:32

Digitalfox wrote:
thgergo wrote:
Weirdy wrote:tried that, doesn't work, just shows normal TTD rail bridges. I was thinking, what about a parameter to disable Purno's road bridges?
Bridge sprite configurations needs to be done per bridgetype. You can replace the original sprite order, or giving more sprites for a bridge, but all road, and railtype bridges sprites needs to be defined. So if you want to make a new approach for a bridge, but for only for road, like in ttrs3, you need to define the original sprites also. Then if you eject ttrs3 on purno`s new bridges, the ttrs3 defines back the purno`s new bridges, so as you saw it.
There would be two ways to solve thins problem: make compatible the sets, if one detects the other, the second should use a different sprite order. Also, support to define new bridges per road or railtype would be good in ttdpatch/OTTD. This would be the most clever option to solve this.
Does purno still care with this set??
If so, we should ask him, if he could update this set to be compatible..

But purno may have other things to do, so i hope he has some spare time to update this set..

For me this is a great set, and one i use in every game i play in openttd

I plan making a new bridge replacement, if purno and others agree, i would be happy to improve this set...

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 07 Jun 2007 21:34

I agree.

Digitalfox · Post by **Digitalfox** » 07 Jun 2007 21:39

Purno wrote:I agree.

thgergo, purno has spoken permission granted..

You may go ahead

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 08 Jun 2007 01:26

thgergo wrote:I plan making a new bridge replacement, if purno and others agree, i would be happy to improve this set...

May I request that you include support for narrow gauge rails?

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 08 Jun 2007 07:54

and metro rails too please.

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 08 Jun 2007 18:12

Purno wrote:and metro rails too please.

Ok i will do my best, but should this set get a grapghic update too? I think including pikkapird`s viaduct with getting permission, and my cantilever bridges would be nice, and the original suspension bridge should be replaced with ttrr3`s suspension bridge. What you think about it? Also i think your reddish suspension bridge needs some rebork, it tooks too basic in my opinion. Just my two cents how to make a superb bridge set...

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 08 Jun 2007 18:52

Sounds fine. My set got a few ugly bridges too.

Digitalfox · Post by **Digitalfox** » 08 Jun 2007 19:19

thgergo wrote:
Purno wrote:and metro rails too please.
Ok i will do my best, but should this set get a grapghic update too? I think including pikkapird`s viaduct with getting permission, and my cantilever bridges would be nice, and the original suspension bridge should be replaced with ttrr3`s suspension bridge. What you think about it? Also i think your reddish suspension bridge needs some rebork, it tooks too basic in my opinion. Just my two cents how to make a superb bridge set...

I'm all for it.. It looks it will be a great set

But will you make some kind of switch so it can work ttrs3 and without ttrs3??

I mean if working with ttrs3 it would only replace train bridges, but if working alone, would replace road and train bridges...

What do you think of this switch??

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 08 Jun 2007 20:57

Digitalfox wrote:
thgergo wrote:
Purno wrote:and metro rails too please.
Ok i will do my best, but should this set get a grapghic update too? I think including pikkapird`s viaduct with getting permission, and my cantilever bridges would be nice, and the original suspension bridge should be replaced with ttrr3`s suspension bridge. What you think about it? Also i think your reddish suspension bridge needs some rebork, it tooks too basic in my opinion. Just my two cents how to make a superb bridge set...
I'm all for it.. It looks it will be a great set

But will you make some kind of switch so it can work ttrs3 and without ttrs3??

I mean if working with ttrs3 it would only replace train bridges, but if working alone, would replace road and train bridges...

What do you think of this switch??

Sure priority No.1

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 09 Jun 2007 09:55

AFAIK, rail bridges and road bridges share sprites, and there's only a limited amount of sprites to use, IIRC.

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 09 Jun 2007 12:14

Purno wrote:AFAIK, rail bridges and road bridges share sprites, and there's only a limited amount of sprites to use, IIRC.

Yeah in basic way, but with more complicated ways than Action A, this will possible, I can use unique bridges for every approach a bridge. The biggest problem with this, I need to redefine the sprites for all railbridges and roadbridges, I cant change only the rails. Per example, TTRS3 have different bridges for roads, and it touches railbridges too, it sets railbridges to default sprites, thats why ttrs3 bridges and this bridgeset cant be used with each other. And there is no limit in sprite usage, if you reserve some sprites with action D, rather than replace unused toyland sprites like this bridgeset is doing now.

thgergo · Post by **thgergo** » 12 Jun 2007 22:04

Finally I have stated coding

Everything have made from blank, better code, no more toyland sprite replacement

The first 3 bridge is complete with rails...

Badger · Post by **Badger** » 12 Jun 2007 22:10

So very pretty

Digitalfox · Post by **Digitalfox** » 12 Jun 2007 22:44

thgergo wrote:Finally I have stated coding Everything have made from blank, better code, no more toyland sprite replacement The first 3 bridge is complete with rails...

Nice

Keep those screenshots coming

Spaceball · Post by **Spaceball** » 12 Jun 2007 23:18

Whoa this screenshot is awesome.

Will there be a wooden bridge replacement in this updated version?

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