Narrow Gauge Locos for Tram Ways

[NekoMaster]

You must have misunderstood me then... I'm not coding, I'm only providing advice if you need any.
If you want me to oode something, you'll have to subscribe at the end of the list

Aw.... you cant even code two little trains? T_T
Anyways I looked at the code for something, and it made no sense at all.

Plus i can't figure out how you compile the nfo with the pcx into a grf with grf codec and the tools I got (renum.exe and qt.exe)

[NekoMaster]

Ok heres the sprites I have, I fixed the other two with buy window graphics.

EMD G16

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EMD GT22CUM-1

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Krauss Maffei ML4000

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Could someone teach me how to code trams? I would like to see how these work in openTTD

Edit : Yes I borrowed the flags for Brazil from the 2cc set, I dont know who did up the flags, but if you want me to remove the flag then please tell me.

The Serbian flag I made my self

[Eddi]

just to clarify: the 2cc set is released under the terms of the GPL, if you are using parts of the 2cc set, you must release your set under the GPL also.

[NekoMaster]

just to clarify: the 2cc set is released under the terms of the GPL, if you are using parts of the 2cc set, you must release your set under the GPL also.

Sure...well I don't plan on selling this nor anything else that would breach the terms in a GPL license.

[DJ Nekkid]

the code is gpl, the gfx is CC ... NA

[NekoMaster]

the code is gpl, the gfx is CC ... NA

Hmm? So Im not allowed? Anyways think you could code those 3 engines for me so i can test them?

[DJ Nekkid]

i did one, now you do the rest

[NekoMaster]

i did one, now you do the rest

Well could you at least tell me how to code it and how to use the tools to compile the nfo and pcx into a grf?

[DJ Nekkid]

I did send you the tools yesterday in a pm, and now you have one VERY VERY basic nfo, and one quite advanced one, both are rather well documented... Also have a look at the grfspec wikipages. I know they are written in a quite heavy lanaguage.

Im also on irc in the channel stated in my sig ... ask there if you have any further questions...

[NekoMaster]

I did send you the tools yesterday in a pm, and now you have one VERY VERY basic nfo, and one quite advanced one, both are rather well documented... Also have a look at the grfspec wikipages. I know they are written in a quite heavy lanaguage.

Im also on irc in the channel stated in my sig ... ask there if you have any further questions...

I tried looking at the pages and also what you gave me, the pages are hard for me to understand and the nfo makes no sense, or at least the values.

If I wanted to have multiple trains in on grf, how would I do that?

Also, went to the IRC chat thing here, I didnt find you.

[FooBar]

If I wanted to have multiple trains in on grf, how would I do that?

Just copy/paste multiple vehicle code sections below one another. Don't forget to change the vehicle ID though (amongst others ofcourse).

Also, went to the IRC chat thing here, I didnt find you.

Don't go here, go there --> irc://irc.oftc.net/openttdcoop.devzone

I can give you the Dutch Tram Set code, but that'd probably scare you at this point in time... As only the most difficult example is badly documented, while others are not documented at all...
I'd recommend to try and understand the code in DJNekkid's last example using the newgrf specification wiki. Read there first what "little endian" is, and what bytes, words and dwords are. Then try to understand what's in the nfo file.

[NekoMaster]

I'd recommend to try and understand the code in DJNekkid's last example using the newgrf specification wiki. Read there first what "little endian" is, and what bytes, words and dwords are. Then try to understand what's in the nfo file.

I looked in the NFO, the values for the stuff makes no sense. Are the values Blank? Also, the ones with /bXXXX is the b a part of hex or of the code?

Another thing, how do I make tram consists and make it refittable to other stuff with differnt graphics for the wagons/cars?

[FooBar]

Some values indeed are blank, like capacity for instance.

The \b in \bXXX is an escape sequence. You can use that so that you don't have to convert everything to hex yourself. \b10 for instance converts the decimal 10 to hex 0A for you. Note the difference between backslashes and forward slashes. Escapes are always backslashes.

Another thing, how do I make tram consists and make it refittable to other stuff with differnt graphics for the wagons/cars?

Try to understand this one first, before attempting more difficult things.
If this rather simple example doesn't make sense to you, more advanced articulated vehicle code certainly won't make sense to you.
Also, Zephyris has written a fine tutorial on vehicle coding. Unfortunately I never can seem to find that

EDIT: ah, here it is: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=37465

[andythenorth]

Another thing, how do I make tram consists and make it refittable to other stuff with differnt graphics for the wagons/cars?

Not the answer to your question, but these might help you:

1. the nfo for HEQS, this is almost completely commented throughout. Trams are road vehicles with one property set to 'require tram tracks', so the code will be similar to HEQS. I don't remember which property is used to make a vehicle a tram though.
http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heq ... eader.pnfo

2. I found Pikka Wiki the best place to understand the basics of nfo:
http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/i ... GRF_coding

3. If you don't have one, a text editor that can show syntax highlighting is useful. Then you can see what is code, and what is comments. I only know about Mac text editors so I can't recommend one. Here's what mine looks like (I prefer a black background, but it's not compulsory)

[NekoMaster]

Another thing, how do I make tram consists and make it refittable to other stuff with differnt graphics for the wagons/cars?

Not the answer to your question, but these might help you:

1. the nfo for HEQS, this is almost completely commented throughout. Trams are road vehicles with one property set to 'require tram tracks', so the code will be similar to HEQS. I don't remember which property is used to make a vehicle a tram though.
http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heq ... eader.pnfo

2. I found Pikka Wiki the best place to understand the basics of nfo:
http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/i ... GRF_coding

3. If you don't have one, a text editor that can show syntax highlighting is useful. Then you can see what is code, and what is comments. I only know about Mac text editors so I can't recommend one. Here's what mine looks like (I prefer a black background, but it's not compulsory)

OMFG! there was soooo much code! Theres no way I could ever do that! My best bet is just to keep drawing graphics and have someone else code. I suck at programing, mainly cause I suck at learning it just like math TT_TT

[DJ Nekkid]

now remember NM, we have all been nfo rookies, and we have all started somewhere... My first attemt didnt work out either, now i did write the QR highspeed thingy streight out of my head, all in one go, no testing up front, and everything worked out as inteded the first time.

Study the two examples i've given you. The 2nd one is an ABSOLUTE basic vehicle... Study the newgrf wikipages, pikkawiki and zyph's nfo programming guide posted a couple of posts up.
"demanding" people to code your stuff is most likely not gonna succeed... I started nfo codeing a good year ago, and andy even less ... less then 1 year ago i think. August 2008 or something...(??), and his stuff work out well.
The reason i did the code for you is because i hoped that you would actually try to understand, and look up how it works...

And as i saied, a few of us are on the mention irc-net/channel, and we are most likely quite happy to explain stuff there if we are online and have the time for it. Just ask quite specific questions

[NekoMaster]

now remember NM, we have all been nfo rookies, and we have all started somewhere... My first attemt didnt work out either, now i did write the QR highspeed thingy streight out of my head, all in one go, no testing up front, and everything worked out as inteded the first time.

Study the two examples i've given you. The 2nd one is an ABSOLUTE basic vehicle... Study the newgrf wikipages, pikkawiki and zyph's nfo programming guide posted a couple of posts up.
"demanding" people to code your stuff is most likely not gonna succeed... I started nfo codeing a good year ago, and andy even less ... less then 1 year ago i think. August 2008 or something...(??), and his stuff work out well.
The reason i did the code for you is because i hoped that you would actually try to understand, and look up how it works...

And as i saied, a few of us are on the mention irc-net/channel, and we are most likely quite happy to explain stuff there if we are online and have the time for it. Just ask quite specific questions

yeah, but after looking after all that stuff for about 2 hours (no really, i kept looking and fooling around with it for 2 hours) all I got was confusion and a hurting head (yes, my head hurts when i think hard T_T )

[andythenorth]

yeah, but after looking after all that stuff for about 2 hours (no really, i kept looking and fooling around with it for 2 hours) all I got was confusion and a hurting head (yes, my head hurts when i think hard T_T )

You might be able to use grfmaker to make your vehicles. It'll give you a visual editor (menus, buttons) etc so you don't have to write nfo. I have never used it, so I can't help you with it. Try a search in the TTDPatch graphics forum if you want to find it.

[DJ Nekkid]

yes, grfmaker might be a good alternative for you... More or less click-and-play, but it cant do the most advanced stuff, if any advanced stuff... Like articulation?

[NekoMaster]

yes, grfmaker might be a good alternative for you... More or less click-and-play, but it cant do the most advanced stuff, if any advanced stuff... Like articulation?

Aw, that sucks. Well, since I can't code, if I tried it would never get anywhere, would you mind trying when you have spare time? Ill draw the graphics, but I was wondering if it would be possible to use some wagon graphics from your 2cc set like the small hoper and the small oil tanker.