Sergey_S Graphics thread

Ben_K · Post by **Ben_K** » 08 Feb 2007 13:49

Ive opened this thread in order to get Sergej's work on one thread. I know that a few people have issues with it but just leave it or post it elsewhere. His posts with graphics are starting to spam a lot of threads and I think its about time he just used his own one.

Sergej, its all yours...

Sergej_S · Post by **Sergej_S** » 08 Feb 2007 20:29

Ben_K wrote:Ive opened this thread in order to get Sergej's work on one thread. I know that a few people have issues with it but just leave it or post it elsewhere. His posts with graphics are starting to spam a lot of threads and I think its about time he just used his own one.

Sergej, its all yours...

Thanks!

I welcome you!

I had separate topic 32bpp, primary was removed Darkvater,
Secondary was blocked Alltaken.

Well is next attempt

There I showed examples of work of the models.

I shall bring responses of some people, which saw it in work:

athanasios wrote: Very happy to see new graphics for 32bpp!

Nappe1 wrote: The main thing in screenshots is, their sprites tilt to make them look moving more naturally in slopes.
Engine seems to have brand new elements, that include using some sort of Vector Graphics with bitmapping
(simple texturing) for sprites. (SVG perhaps? translation engines screw up these very well.)

While I was developing editing tools for Need for Speed series games
(Mostly for NFS3 and NFS4) there were these extremely talented Russian guys
Living somewhere mid-Siberia. They did marvelous work with very limited tools,
But duew bad connections to east, their site was most of the time inaccessible.
The quality was there, but the language and connections was lacking.
This is like living same thing all over again.

LordOfThePigs wrote: It also seems that these guys have implemented a way for vehicles to tilt in slopes,
Using some simple pixel displacement algorithm
(Just take the original sprite and move every column of pixels up one pixel once every two columns).
Which would be why their trains seem to follow the slopes but still have both their vertical ending look vertically aligned.

giddorah wrote: I must say... You're not lazy Keep up the good work and keep posting this stuff...

MagicBuzz wrote: I just can say you do a great work, as you produce a lot of new nice Grfs.

Raven wrote: The fact that these graphics are 32bit...

I want to tell once again large thank to all people, which have told me many good words!

Sergej

Sergej_S · Post by **Sergej_S** » 08 Feb 2007 20:33

All images shown as in this theme, and in others, are real copies of the screen
The necessary files can be received here:
The given site is optimized for use VML 1024*768 and Microsoft InterNet Explorer 6.0

Sitemap in Russian :

http://lidars.narod.ru - The main Start page

Sitemap in English :

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page1168.htm - The main page

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2681.htm - Railway transportation

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2709.htm - Buses, Trolley buses, Lorries, Cars

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2737.htm - Sailing charter

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2765.htm - Air transportation

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2788.htm - Buildings and structures

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2806.htm - Industrial sets

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2596.htm - New releases of programs OpenTTD 32bpp

http://lidars.narod.ru/Index.files/Page2683.htm - Copies of the screen for version OpenTTD 32bpp

Yours faithfully to all participants of a forum!

Sergey.

Sergej_S · Post by **Sergej_S** » 08 Feb 2007 20:39

Specially for my friends and admirers from Germany!
(On today you 33 men)

I show a map of city of Berlin.
The real copy of the screen is executed on a map of district -
The script "Europa_10_281.scn" - size 1 685 981, date of release 21.04.2006.

The urban buildings use graphic images from a collection for preliminary viewing
The graphic images of preliminary viewing are used
The following magnificent artists:

Aracirion
BerberJesus
Blenderist
Brupje
Czestmyr
Dmh_mac
Gorre
Heathen
StefSybo

I put for comparison two real copies of the screen district, made on one map.

On the first screen - image of the screen on the 8-bit official version of the version OpenTTD -
156 unique colours are really used only

On the second screen - image of the screen on the 32-bit version OpenTTD 32bpp -
Is really used only of 48 334 unique colours

Pay attention to change of quality of a picture...

Yours faithfully!

Sergej

Post by **Dave** » 08 Feb 2007 22:22

Where are your credits for Zimmlock's roads?

I also prefer the 8-bit... Personal preference.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 08 Feb 2007 23:12

Dave Worley wrote:Where are your credits for Zimmlock's roads?

I also prefer the 8-bit... Personal preference.

Indeed, me too on both counts.

Those are not your roads.

m4rek · Post by **m4rek** » 08 Feb 2007 23:15

looks better when all the graphics are replaced instead of just a few of them, so its starting to look better.

but, eh, could ya do me a favour and remove those white outlines on those buildings that have them. and replace all the graphics

Ben_K · Post by **Ben_K** » 09 Feb 2007 11:27

Yeah, admittedly, its looking much better in that last shot Sergey. They look more 'together' than usual.

Chaps, I appreciate the issues with copying other peoples graphics but this has been going on so long now. Lets keep this thread clear for Sergej and either PM him or get this thread deleted and him banned if its that bad.
Sorry to sound like an ar5e, but Id just like to see this all a little more tidy and on-topic in all threads.

Another note: Any graphics artists, please write here if you are happy or not as that should help to clear any copying issues.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 09 Feb 2007 11:34

Ben_K wrote:Another note: Any graphics artists, please write here if you are happy or not as that should help to clear any copying issues.

Actually, the MODERATORS would prefer to be contacted about such copyright issues, to prevent flame wars.

Granted, if people took a less liberal approach to other peoples property in the first place, we wouldn't have problems like this in the first place. Read into that what you will.

Ben_K · Post by **Ben_K** » 09 Feb 2007 11:57

Well, dont get me wrong. i think that stealing/copying graphics is not on. However its been discussed for ages now. No official response. Mods are seeing it, no response. So all I did this for is to keep the whole place neater rather than have Sergejs posts appearing everywhere and then having threads destroyed by peoples copyright responses.

If you get what I mean?!

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 09 Feb 2007 12:02

Dave Worley wrote:[...]I also prefer the 8-bit... Personal preference.

Most of the new ones look "blurred". Apart from the fact that they have done in different styles.

regards
Michael

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 09 Feb 2007 12:13

Ben_K wrote:Mods are seeing it, no response.

There is plenty of discussion going on behind closed doors. I retain the right to step in whenever I suspect copyright being violated.

CMircea · Post by **CMircea** » 09 Feb 2007 12:44

Raichase wrote:
Ben_K wrote:Mods are seeing it, no response.
There is plenty of discussion going on behind closed doors. I retain the right to step in whenever I suspect copyright being violated.

Show me a picture of the copyright certificate and then it's copyright violation.

Brianetta · Post by **Brianetta** » 09 Feb 2007 12:50

Desolator wrote:Show me a picture of the copyright certificate and then it's copyright violation.

Incorrect. A certificate is not needed. Copyright is owned from the moment that an original work is put into a tangible form. That, by the way, is international copyright law, which is constant and compatible in the majority of countries in the world. You have no implicit rights or freedoms to use another person's work, in any way at all with the exception of "fair use" which (in the UK at least) includes parody and example only. You only have those rights which are granted to you by the explicit permission of the owner.

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 09 Feb 2007 12:58

> Show me [...]

Romania signed the Berne Convention on January 1st, 1927.

regards
Michael

Killer 11 · Post by **Killer 11** » 09 Feb 2007 14:06

michael blunck wrote:
Dave Worley wrote:[...]I also prefer the 8-bit... Personal preference.
Most of the new ones look "blurred". Apart from the fact that they have done in different styles.

regards
Michael

They look blurred becouse they are primitively resized to fit correct size, they should be rendered on that size to get the maximum quality.

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 09 Feb 2007 14:15

Killer 11 wrote:They look blurred becouse they are primitively resized to fit correct size, they should be rendered on that size to get the maximum quality.

So this is bad copies of artists work without permission of some of the artists. I can fully understand why artists are getting annoyed.

They put time and effort into creating a quality model in Blender, only for a hack to chop up their graphics and "present" them.

In music, this is called bootlegging. Unofficial, unapproved, distribution of material not up to the quality the artists want for their work.

Sergej_S · Post by **Sergej_S** » 09 Feb 2007 19:30

richk67 wrote:
Killer 11 wrote:They look blurred becouse they are primitively resized to fit correct size, they should be rendered on that size to get the maximum quality.
So this is bad copies of artists work without permission of some of the artists. I can fully understand why artists are getting annoyed.
They put time and effort into creating a quality model in Blender, only for a hack to chop up their graphics and "present" them.
In music, this is called bootlegging. Unofficial, unapproved, distribution of material not up to the quality the artists want for their work.

The artists should make a decision!

It is not necessary to decide(solve) for them!

I personally dispatched the letters to all these people, перечисленым in the list even two or three times!

Under the Russian laws - silence - mark of the consent!

The author should obviously write to me the letter - then his(its) graphic images will be excluded from display.

We speak it any more for the first time!

I use by the free-of-charge program, free-of-charge I do(make) graphic sets, free-of-charge I show results of the job to anothers, I do not take the profit - about what in general there is a conversation?

Sergej

Sergej_S · Post by **Sergej_S** » 09 Feb 2007 19:40

I show variants of the main menus for the version OpenTTD 32bpp
The graphic images are taken from a free collection of photos found in the Internet.

These files can be received under the direct references directly from here:
http://lidars.narod.ru/Files/OpenTTD/MainMenu32bpp.tar
http://lidars.narod.ru/Files/OpenTTD/Ma ... bpp_v2.tar
http://lidars.narod.ru/Files/OpenTTD/Ma ... bpp_v3.tar

The first variant - my menu by default, I showed it(him) approximately of half-year back on Russian forum

The second edition - name of style - Sun

The third variant - name of style - Nature

If who knows good collections of photos of a nature for an easy approach - please, write to me in the personal messages

Sergej

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 09 Feb 2007 19:49

Sergej_S wrote:Under the Russian laws - silence - mark of the consent!

This is not Russia. Russian law DOES NOT APPLY here.

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