Nuclear Industries Set [Planning]

RPharazon · Post by **RPharazon** » 08 Sep 2005 02:43

Due to an IRC chat, I have come up with a great idea to use the New Industries.
The Nuclear Industries Set!

Basically, it'd be an Industry link.

Code: Select all

Uranium Mine---------------Nuclear Power 
Plutonium Mine ------------   Plant
                                  |
                                  |
                                  |
                            Nuclear
                       Waste Dumping
                               Site

So, you get Uranium and Plutonium from mines, bring it to the Nuclear Power Plant, the nuclear power plant produces Nuclear Waste, so you bring the Nuclear Waste to a dumping site.

So, who likes the idea? If you do, please contribute some way.
We need artists (To make the industries) and coders (For the newindustries triggers).

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 08 Sep 2005 03:28

There is a step missing in the process ... a nuclear fuel plant where the uranium is enriched and pelletized and inserted into tubes.
Also, I may be wrong about this, but isn't plutonium a by-product produced by the nuclear power plant?

RPharazon · Post by **RPharazon** » 08 Sep 2005 03:39

Sure, we can make it a 4-industry chain. Nuclear Fuel plant it is.

And yes, I forgot Plutonium was a synthesized material, made out of U-238 (a kind of Uranium, methinks).

So, we can completely redesign the industry chain.

Uranium Mine -> Nuclear Fuel Enrichment -> Nuclear Power Plant -> Nuclear Waste Facility AND/OR Space and Military Programs.

So, we need a mine-like graphic for the Uranium Mine, an industrial plant thing for the Fuel Enrichment, the classical Nuclear Power Plant design, the big Pit & Facility for the Waste Facility, and a Military-Looking base for the Military/Space Program.

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 08 Sep 2005 04:30

You are right, wallyweb. So-called "breeder" reactors are loaded with the fissile Uranium and Plutonium isotopes (U235 and Pu239) , which are then surrounded with a "blanket" of non-fissile Uranium (U238). The latter absorbs neutrons and decays into Pu239, which can be used to power other power plants. Average output is about 1.2 tons of Pu239 per ton of fissile material (U235 and Pu239) consumed.

What comes out of the ground is approximately 99% U238 and 1% U235, with an insignificant amount of U234.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 08 Sep 2005 06:33

Hmmm... nuclear industries...

I don't really follow all the industry thingies, but I do we now get different grf-files with each a different industry model?

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 08 Sep 2005 12:49

Certainly sounds interesting. I wouldn't want to see one of those trains crash though

.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 08 Sep 2005 16:34

Raichase wrote:Certainly sounds interesting. I wouldn't want to see one of those trains crash though .

that just calls for a Tchernobyl-scenario. ask Jim Powers.

prissi · Post by **prissi** » 08 Sep 2005 21:38

Ok, here you get my castor car I drew a long time ago. It is for Simutrans, and did just a quick and dirty convert. Feel free to use it. (no company colors, sorry.)

And even this

is and original iron more mine, maybe you can reuse it as uranium mine ...

BobDendry · Post by **BobDendry** » 08 Sep 2005 21:39

No offense, but that doesn't look good. Maybe the conversion ruined it.

prissi · Post by **prissi** » 08 Sep 2005 21:43

Likely, it was green and had gradients ... But maybe also the original was not too good. I rather do programming than drawing.

RPharazon · Post by **RPharazon** » 08 Sep 2005 22:00

The Iron-Ore-Mine-Cum-Uranium looks good, just add maybe... a radioactivity sign or something?

And the Uranium containers look good aside from the obvious clarification and shading problems.

hawk · Post by **hawk** » 08 Sep 2005 22:03

prissi wrote:Ok, here you get my castor car I drew a long time ago. It is for Simutrans, and did just a quick and dirty convert. Feel free to use it. (no company colors, sorry.)

And even this is and original iron more mine, maybe you can reuse it as uranium mine ...

Is it just me or could that be mistaken as an abandoned mine

RPharazon · Post by **RPharazon** » 08 Sep 2005 22:18

Not really, just make some green ooze and make sure the palette is right.

Prebral · Post by **Prebral** » 08 Sep 2005 23:53

Actually, there is not green ooze around uranium power plants/waste dumps/anything (except for Springfield and Fallout

). Faint blue/violet ("Cherenkov radiation" - some visible stuff charged particles generate when passing through solid materials/water...at least I hope so, I am not a nuclear scientist) is more accurate but also cannot be used because if you see it to shine this way, you are usually already dead, just not knowing it.

To be a bit constructive/inspirative, some uranium mine and other facilities photos follow:

MINES:
Jáchymov/Joachimsthal (CZ) - underground, old ones, radioactive materials used for healing and experiments since end of 19th century, since 1940s-50s important uranium mines
http://www.hornictvi.info/histhor/lokal ... /image.htm

Pribram (CZ) - underground, opened at 1950s/60s, now closed:
http://www.hornictvi.info/histhor/lokal ... mage3.htm]

Rozna (CZ) - underground, still active:
http://www.hornictvi.info/histhor/lokal ... image2.htm

Hamr (CZ) - both shaft and chemical mining:
http://rv.hyperlink.cz/uran1.html
http://rv.hyperlink.cz/uran3.html
http://prebral.net/gal/2p/ralsko/IMG_4292.JPG (Chemicals containers...acid was pumped underground and then pumped back including uranium)

Ranger mine (Australia) - open pit mine and some facilities:
http://www.anawa.org.au/nt/photos-ranger.htm
http://www.fotocesty.cz/australie/cla38.html

Somewhere in Arizona - blue-colored settling pit...the color is not from radiation but from some chemicals and is not common in settling pits - they are usually just full of some dirty greyish stuff:
http://www.pilotlist.org/balades/arizon ... ranium.jpg

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 09 Sep 2005 00:24

If I may? The most important part about the mine (IMO), to distinguish it from every other possible type of mine, is to have the tailings dams. They are going to be what differentiates this mine from a coal mine, or an iron mine.

Also the Ranger mine here in AU is a bit of a stuff-up, as they didn't protect the tailings dams properly (corner cutting and whatnot), and some of the raditation leaked into the ground water...

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 09 Sep 2005 07:12

it's good graphic for me

Szappy · Post by **Szappy** » 09 Sep 2005 07:28

gl2 has started a nuclear plant project long time ago.
In the time, when newindustries were not even considered possible. He used "newstations" sprites to construct custom industries. Since then it got converted to "newindustries".
It consists of existing soviet RBMK reactors, needing some texturing/shading.
Of course it was never announced here.
He said, if you're interested, he's willing to share his work, and even code this 'set' too.
Here are some shots of his work (see also picture desriptions):

BobDendry · Post by **BobDendry** » 09 Sep 2005 07:46

I reckon the best bet is a nuclear power plant with the pebble cooling towers.

onodera · Post by **onodera** » 09 Sep 2005 08:18

I have to say the Chernobyl plant looks very much like the real one.
But where's the very first NPP in the world, the one in Obninsk?

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 09 Sep 2005 08:32

well, that's .... awesome !!!!

if only it would work like in SC4:RH (where trains/ships/roadvehs) can travel through that industry

(hear me developers)

Transport Tycoon Forums

Nuclear Industries Set [Planning]

Nuclear Industries Set [Planning]

Who is online