Auz Road Sets

[Argus]

Bug at Asphalt track depot, the vehicle goes off the side wall and can't get back. Unfortunately, I didn't have time to make a screenshot.

[MysticSound]

Hello, I would like to report a bug/problem. Start in 1900, town using industrial road. I only enable your newgrf with RattRoads. Also, my paramaters is the same across all grf.

Thank you.

[Quast65]

I think we (mainly you ) should get working on your other 3 roadsets.

1. Adding parameters to them.
2. Think about what roads are kind of in the same sort of group (highspeedroads, normalspeedroads, pedestrianroads, farm/rural-roads, industrial-roads, etc etc)
This to think about what roads should be in each others powered_roadtype_list, as now everything is in each others powered-list and that could use improvement.
3. Add IAAN to the alternative_roadtype_list of the appropriate other farm/rural-roads
4. Think about what labels the "vehicles" in that GRF with the marching armies should get
5. Impliment those into the appropriate roads via alternative_roadtype

This has no rush by the way and can be done along your development of nice things for the auzobjects.

[Brickblock1]

3. Add alternative_roadtype IAAN to the appropriate other farm/rural-roads

IAAN shouldn't be compatible with road tho according to the standard and if roadvehicles want to work on regular roads they should add RAAN as a fallback when IAAN isn't avaliable.

[Quast65]

IAAN shouldn't be compatible with road

Those vehicles arent and wont, see this GRF:
viewtopic.php?p=1261185#p1261185
With garry's other farm/rural roads, I mean those ones with a dirt surface (I and second A, of IAAN)
The IAAN vehicles will only drive on those.

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3. Add alternative_roadtype IAAN to the appropriate other farm/rural-roads

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3. Add IAAN to the alternative_roadtype_list of the appropriate other farm/rural-roads

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@Garry
I think we best start of with that roadset that has the dirt-roads and the cobbleroads.
That way we can test out what happens with IAAN vehicles and also adding the people/cattle-etc "vehicles"

[GarryG]

I think we (mainly you ) should get working on your other 3 roadsets.

Been looking at ideas for some time with the roads sets.
And with what you mention got me thinking more.
I joined the 3 sets together for my own use.
But keeping the 3 separate might be best but maybe rename them.

Part 1: Can be Rural and Country Roads. (Roads with fences)
Part 2: Can be highspeed, Town and City Roads and maybe pedestrianroads
Part 3: Industrial and others.

Will have a think about it for a bit while I do a bit of object work.

[Quast65]

Well, to be honest, eventually having them all in one set would be better (if only for the reason that it frees up 2 GRF-slots, or even one more if you combine them with the FarmroadGRF).
And especially if you give them all a parameter to be active or not.

However, for now, with "learning" how to use these new features, I think it is handier to keep them split up.
As they then are smaller chunks to handle and if some issues arise, it is not that difficult to search for it.

Later, when all is working as desired, they can be combined.

Will have a think about it for a bit while I do a bit of object work.

That is good, I am very busy the next couple of days with work. Have more time free on tuesday and wednesday.
The thing you could do (where you dont need me for) if you have time/feel like it, is to give the roads parameters to (dis)activate them.

[SkiddLow]

I get a new suggestion for translation of Auz Road Sets into other languages to be : Spanish, Portuguese, French, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indonesian, Malay, Thai and other

Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) translation of Auz Road Sets will determinated :
- Farm Tracks => Jalur Pertanian
- Dirt Tracks => Jalur Tanah
- Dirt Road + Electrified Dirt Road => Jalan Tanah & Jalan Tanah Dialiri Listrik
- Beach Sand => Jalan Pasir Pantai
- Cobblestone Road + Wide Road + with Fence + Electrified => Jalan Berbatu, Jalan Berbatu Lebar, Jalan Berbatu dengan Pagar, Jalan Berbatu Lebar Dialiri Listrik (+dengan Pagar)
- Concrete Road => Jalan Beton
- Clickity Clack Road => Jalan Beton Klak Klik
- Basic, Improved, Modern Bitumen Road => Jalan Aspal Dasar, Jalan Aspal Ditingkatkan dan Jalan Aspal Modern
- Modern Concrete Road => Jalan Beton Modern
- Highway Bitumen => Jalan Raya Aspal
- Highway Concrete => Jalan Raya Beton
- Boulevard Front/Back Section => Bulevar bagian Depan/Belakang
- Single Lane Road Left/Right Side => Jalan Satu Lajur Sisi Kiri/Kanan
- Railway Ballast Road => Jalan Pemberat Kereta Api
- Mine Access Road => Jalan Akses Pertambangan
- Industrial Road / ISR Industrial Road =>Jalan Industri / Jalan Industri ISR

For Bahasa Melayu (Malay) translation of Auz Road Sets will determinated :
- Farm Tracks => Laluan Ladang
- Dirt Tracks => Laluan Tanah
- Dirt Road + Electrified Dirt Road => Jalan Tanah & Jalan Tanah Dielektrik
- Beach Sand => Jalan Pasir Pantai
- Cobblestone Road + Wide Road + with Fence + Electrified => Jalan Batu, Jalan Batu Lebar, Jalan Batu dengan Pagar, Jalan Batu Lebar Dielektrik (+dengan Pagar)
- Concrete Road => Jalan Konkrit
- Clickity Clack Road => Jalan Konkrit Klak Klik
- Basic, Improved, Modern Bitumen Road => Jalan Asfalt Dasar, Jalan Asfalt Dipertingkatkan dan Jalan Asfalt Moden
- Modern Concrete Road => Jalan Konkrit Moden
- Highway Bitumen => Lebuhraya Asfalt
- Highway Concrete => Lebuhraya Konkrit
- Boulevard Front/Back Section => Persiaran bahagian Depan/Belakang
- Single Lane Road Left/Right Side => Jalan Satu Lorong Sisi Kiri/Kanan
- Railway Ballast Road => Jalan Balast Keretapi
- Mine Access Road => Jalan Akses Perlombongan
- Industrial Road / ISR Industrial Road =>Jalan Perindustrian / Jalan Perindustrian ISR

Auz Road Sets should have other languages!!!

[GarryG]

Well, to be honest, eventually having them all in one set would be better (if only for the reason that it frees up 2 GRF-slots, or even one more if you combine them with the FarmroadGRF).
And especially if you give them all a parameter to be active or not.

However, for now, with "learning" how to use these new features, I think it is handier to keep them split up.
As they then are smaller chunks to handle and if some issues arise, it is not that difficult to search for it.

Later, when all is working as desired, they can be combined.

I started working on the AuzRattRoadsPt1. I'll just put 10 roads in this until we happy with.

I removed the electrified roads as not thinks they really need on this set of roads .. at least not for now.

That is good, I am very busy the next couple of days with work. Have more time free on tuesday and wednesday.

Catch up with you later next week. Cheers pal.

I get a new suggestion for translation of Auz Road Sets into other languages to be : Spanish, Portuguese, French, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indonesian, Malay, Thai and other

Hope can do that once Quast65 and I have finished making the changes and adding the parameters. Cheers

[Argus]

I removed the electrified roads as not thinks they really need on this set of roads .. at least not for now.

It's a shame, I use trolleybuses often, but I understand that they probably don't run much in Australia.

[Quast65]

I removed the electrified roads as not thinks they really need on this set of roads .. at least not for now.

It's a shame, I use trolleybuses often, but I understand that they probably don't run much in Australia.

I am working with Garry via PM's on the remodelling of his roadset, at least one electrified road will be in there.
No worries

[Argus]

Thank you for the information I would hate to mix the two sets of roads, it causes quite a lot of problems. The experience with the combination of polroad and other sets was fully enough for me to say that this really won't work

[GarryG]

Big changes coming with my road sets.

When I first made them many years ago I added fences because to put the fences manually along the road had to do 1 tile at a time. But the OpenTTD upgrades now allow to lay fences and any other object continuous by holding down the mouse button.

So I going to remove the fences from my road set as this will give you the opportunity to put what ever fences you like along side the roads by using my AuzFenceObjects or fences made by other coders.

No idea when this be finished .. but that is my plan.

Cheers