Post *** ALL MiniIN Problems *** Here please

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 21 Jul 2006 14:36

Hi All.

Just to help keep the problems pages less cluttered with errors that were found in MiniIN from those in the rest of OTTD, please post the details in this thread.

Please try to keep this thread for error posts only; general discussions can go in the main MiniIN thread.

For each report, please state which version of MiniIN you were using, and attach a PNG screenshot and savegame if possible.

It will help me track what needs working on. Thanks.

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 21 Jul 2006 16:54

For a start

r5530
The "full load" order is totally wrong. It behaves "randomly".
I load a save game from the previous version. In the first case the trains would unload( the passangers) and leave the station without loading new passangers.
Then i reloaded the same game and the trains stops at the station(as it should for full load), takes some passangers and starts unloading them, making profit(shown on the screenshot) at the same station (this behaviour was in the previous version). The train(s) never leaves.

The other possibility is that i am using the "full load" improperly, since no one complained so far.

cinique · Post by **cinique** » 21 Jul 2006 18:00

Hi,

I use the OTTD-win32-MiniIN-r5530-MiniIN. And I have a little problem with autoreplacing engines in long more-engines trains. The same problem I had with MiniIN ver 5450 and 5476. I didnt try other versions.

I think the pictures document the problem better than my bad english

The problem occurs only with trains with more than one engines. And the problem is that the old engines are not demolished.

I am sorry if it is my fault that I cant correctly set up something. I will rewarding for any help, cause the map full of alone engines without orders is a little annoying.

gigajum · Post by **gigajum** » 21 Jul 2006 19:16

gkirilov wrote:For a start
r5530
The "full load" order is totally wrong. It behaves "randomly".
I load a save game from the previous version. In the first case the trains would unload( the passangers) and leave the station without loading new passangers.
Then i reloaded the same game and the trains stops at the station(as it should for full load), takes some passangers and starts unloading them, making profit(shown on the screenshot) at the same station (this behaviour was in the previous version). The train(s) never leaves.

The other possibility is that i am using the "full load" improperly, since no one complained so far.

I have no idea what you are doing with the game, but i never noticed such a behaviour. I have no idea how to reproduce it or any part of the code that allows that what you said

. You have a Savegame for me and a short text how to reproduce it.

@richk please write in the first post, that png pictures are better then jpg ones, especially in ingame screenshots.

cinique · Post by **cinique** » 21 Jul 2006 19:41

gigajum wrote:@richk please write in the first post, that png pictures are better then jpg ones, especially in ingame screenshots.

I replaced the jpg images to png, but there are still not visible... Is it due to resolution or what am I doing wrong, please?

R2 · Post by R2 » 21 Jul 2006 19:50

cinique wrote:I replaced the jpg images to png, but there are still not visible... Is it due to resolution or what am I doing wrong, please?

It's due to the file size. Pictures larger than something about 500KB or so are not shown. However, a full screen shot isn't always neccessary, you can cut out the most important issue using IrfanView, for example.

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 21 Jul 2006 20:05

Pictures only upto 800x600 pixels are shown (like mine above).
gigajum: Check the save game. You can see the ICE1 making profit at the same station it takes the passangers from. The pass. are delived(transferred) by the city buses.

gigajum · Post by **gigajum** » 21 Jul 2006 20:32

AEHM
i have a Lev1 engine with three fruit trucks, and it has passengers loaded, and it drives on normal rail with ~600km/h. Sorry but THAT is extrem wrong. I think that has something todo with the grfs you're playing with. I'll look at that, but it can last.

edit: not important

gigajum · Post by **gigajum** » 21 Jul 2006 20:36

cinique wrote:
gigajum wrote:@richk please write in the first post, that png pictures are better then jpg ones, especially in ingame screenshots.
I replaced the jpg images to png, but there are still not visible... Is it due to resolution or what am I doing wrong, please?

if you convert jpg to png the quality loss has already happend. You need to create the png files direct from the screen or from untouched bmp. Please take also a look here: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Screenshot_format

cinique · Post by **cinique** » 21 Jul 2006 21:04

gigajum wrote:
cinique wrote:
gigajum wrote:@richk please write in the first post, that png pictures are better then jpg ones, especially in ingame screenshots.
I replaced the jpg images to png, but there are still not visible... Is it due to resolution or what am I doing wrong, please?
if you convert jpg to png the quality loss has already happend. You need to create the png files direct from the screen or from untouched bmp. Please take also a look here: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Screenshot_format

Ok, thanks. Next time I will better

But cant you help me with my prime problem I wrote about?

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 21 Jul 2006 21:17

gigajum wrote:AEHM
i have a Lev1 engine with three fruit trucks, and it has 1 passenger loaded. Sorry but THAT is extrem wrong. I think that has something todo with the grfs you're playing with. I'll look at that, but it can last.

what's AEHM?
Sorry about the grfs. I was using the new buses(from LV3) and dbxl.
Here is a similar setup. with the default config file(created by the ottd).

gigajum · Post by **gigajum** » 21 Jul 2006 21:23

cinique wrote: Ok, thanks. Next time I will better
But cant you help me with my prime problem I wrote about?

No sorry, the patch is not from me. The author alse released a bugfix, which has not been commited to the svn branch. I could look after that too, but i do not want to botch in his work, sorry. Maybe it is a bug that exist in trunk, too. A Savegame would help a lot

gigajum · Post by **gigajum** » 21 Jul 2006 21:31

gkirilov wrote:what's AEHM?

you say it when you are surprised at something which cannot be (dunno if that exists in english)

i'll look at that, but first i need to fetch that grfs

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 21 Jul 2006 21:37

gigajum wrote:
gkirilov wrote:what's AEHM?
you say it when you are surprised at something which cannot be (dunno if that exists in english)

i'll look at that, but first i need to fetch that grfs

Try AHEM!

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 21 Jul 2006 21:41

gigajum wrote:i'll look at that, but first i need to fetch that grfs

The second attachment is without grfs.

cinique · Post by **cinique** » 21 Jul 2006 21:41

gigajum wrote:A Savegame would help a lot

Ok. Here you are.
Turn auto replace ON (because it cant be save) and assign the train to go to the depot. Then you should see what bothering me.

Thanks a lot for any help.

gigajum · Post by **gigajum** » 21 Jul 2006 21:59

richk67 wrote:
gigajum wrote:
gkirilov wrote:what's AEHM?
....
Try AHEM!

A miss is as good as a mile

thanks.

gkirilov wrote:The second attachment is without grfs.

No, i still have a lev 1 with fruit trucks, loading passengers, and drivring on normal rail, in the year 1999. i like that

. But it does nothing to the problem itself. i'm still searching

it looks like you get the train to do loading and unloading together

edit: Ok i got it. Has to do with the cargo you transfer to the station. the train loads it and unloads it as it sees the cargo source station is not the same as it's current ....

edit2: OK now it becomes strange, it uses (it should use) the same code as in trunk and in trunk there is not that bug.

mart3p · Post by **mart3p** » 21 Jul 2006 22:55

Settings for subsidiaries are not being saved. This may have been mentioned before, but I have found that this can cause an assert. I’m using r5575

1. Load a subsidiaries savegame and “forget” to switch on “Enable subsidiaries management”.
2. Open the station information window for a station used by a subsidiaries' vehicle.
3. Press the button that opens the vehicle list for the station and you get the assert:

Code: Select all

v->type == VEH_Train && (IsSisterCompany(v->owner, owner) || _patches.shared_stations

if it’s a railway station, or for a road stop:

Code: Select all

v->type == VEH_Road && (IsSisterCompany(v->owner, owner) || _patches.shared_stations

I know the assert isn't surprising under those circumstances but I feel the save settings issue should be fixed to prevent it.

richk67 · Post by **richk67** » 21 Jul 2006 23:02

mart3p wrote:Settings for subsidiaries are not being saved. This may have been mentioned before, but I have found that this can cause an assert. I’m using r5575

Good one.

Which settings need saving? All, or just the master subsidiaries switch? This will need a savegame bump, to make it work ok.

mart3p · Post by **mart3p** » 21 Jul 2006 23:06

I think they should all be saved. If you’ve changed the default tax values for using another players facilities, it’s really annoying to have to reset them each time you load the game.

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