AXIS - Another eXtreme Industry Set

[Argus]

Thanks

[Argus]

Why is it disabled by default to create a new industry while playing? Does it cause any problems or can I activate it without worry?
And why doesn't the vineyard also produce alcohol?

[Emperor Jake]

Why is it disabled by default to create a new industry while playing? Does it cause any problems or can I activate it without worry?

That parameter's been changed from FIRS. The original parameter disabled industries spawning randomly as well as disabling funding/prospecting, which made it pretty useless. It now only disables industries appearing randomly over the course of the game, which is unbalanced and leads to too many industries because industries don't close by default. Many people set the industry density to "funding only" after generating a map, and this is no longer required.
If you want industries to spawn randomly, feel free to enable the parameter. However, the parameter no longer affects funding/prospecting industries, that is always allowed no matter what. (I could maybe do a separate parameter for this, but disabling funding/prospecting for primary industries is already in the game settings, and I see no real reason for disabling funding of secondary industries)

And why doesn't the vineyard also produce alcohol?

Because getting a final product right out of a primary industry would be too easy

[skc]

And why doesn't the vineyard also produce alcohol?

In the real world, a vineyard produces grapes, which are transported to a winery to become alcoholic beverages.
A winery is needed to do that.
Yes, many wineries are located within a vineyard and many vineyards have an on-site winery.
But, most vineyards across the globe have to ship their grapes off-site (usually no more a few kilometres/miles) to a winery, so it makes sense for a vineyard not to produce alcohol in AXIS.

[Emperor Jake]

Exactly, this is why the Winery & Distillery industry is programmed to spawn nearby to vineyards. Much like many other chains in AXIS and FIRS

Though I did consider splitting the distillery off into a separate industry, the problem is I'm starting to run low on industry IDs and I need to save those for a future economy. (the way it's programmed, industry IDs are shared across all economies and there is a hard limit of 128 of them)

[Argus]

Thanks for the information. I didn't realize this with those wineries, because here, each winemaker makes his own wine for himself and his guests - even if the wine is still transported somewhere.

[Captain Rand]

.. industry...........there is a hard limit of 128 of them.

IIRC That limit is per NewGRF. The total per game is 250 (I can never remember if that number is right, can someone confirm please?).
Perhaps you would consider splitting over two NewGRF's. Just a thought.

Pete.

[Emperor Jake]

The limit is 240, I believe.

And I've thought about splitting the set if it came to that, but it would be messy and complicated

so I think I'd rather separate the economies out into different NewGRFs (as I mentioned, each economy shares the same pool of industry IDs)

[Niduin]

Thanks for the upate.

[Argus]

As for changing the parameter, I understand. I'll have to keep this in mind for scenarios where no industry is initially located. Although, with such complex chains, randomly placing industries during the game is already a nuisance. I always end up subsidizing.

[Niduin]

AXIS is best played with cargodist (asymmetric equal distribution) enabled for all cargos, and cargo delivery distribution mode set to Balanced.

This also for passengers and post ?
Normaly i use for logical reasons symetric for passengers and for post asymetric without equal distribution.

[Emperor Jake]

Passengers and mail don't count as AXIS has no effect on them, they can be played with whatever settings you prefer.

[SkiddLow]

I've been enjoyed to update new version of AXIS about a days ago that yo can making tropical economies with this industry set due to 'Tropical Paradise' additional, however on Indonesian did not update on translation since from latest FIRS version after v3 (also in AXIS & XIS).

Here's should be translated to Indonesian for future AXIS updates until they added :

ENTIRE FACTORIES (translated to Indonesian) - also in FIRS

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Toko Roti (Bakery)
Pabrik Asam (Acid Plant)
Pabrik Amonia (Ammonia Plant)
Pabrik Peralatan (Appliance Factory)
Pabrik Bahan Kimia (Chemical Plant)
Pabrik Klor-Alkali (Chlor-Alkali Plant)
Tempat Fasilitas Bahan Peledak (Civil Explosives Facility)
Pabrik Pupuk (Fertilizer/Fertiliser Plant)
Pabrik Tepung (Flour Mill)
Tempat Pasokan Alat Teknik (Engineering Supply Yard)
Pabrik Produk Pembersih (Cleaning Agent Factory)
Pabrik Pencairan Batubara (Coal Liquefaction Plant)
Pabrik Perengkahan Nafta (Naphta Cracker)
Terminal Bahan Cairan (Liquids Terminal)
Pertanian Ikan (Fish Farm)
Perternakan Sapi Perah (Dairy Farm)
Pabrik Cat (Paint Factory)
Tambang Pasir Tar (Tar Sands Mine)
Tambang Garam (Salt Mine)
Pabrik Konsentrator Tembaga (Copper Concentrator)
Pertanian Rumput Laut (Seaweed Farm)
Pabrik Peleburan Tembaga (Copper Smelter)
Bengkel Pelat Timah (Tinplate Works)
Pabrik Asam Fosfat (Phosphate Acid Plant)
Pabrik Polimer (Polymerization Plant)
Pabrik Solvay (Solvay Plant)
Pabrik Karet Sintetis (Synthetic Rubber Plant)
Dermaga (Wharf)
Tempat Pasokan Alat Pertanian (Farm Supply Yard)
Tambang Batu Kapur (Limestone Mine)
Pabrik Pengemasan Buah (Fruit Packing Plant)
Bengkel Pandai dan Pengecoran Besi (Forging and Foundry)
Pabrik Pengemasan Daging (Meat Packing Plant)
Bengkel Elektrik (Electrical Works)
Pabrik Minyak Goreng (Edible Oil Refinery)
Penyulingan dan Kilang Anggur (Distilery and Winery)
Pertanian Kapas (Cotton Farm)
Pabrik Komponen (Component Factory)
Tempat Pemanggangan Kokas (Coke Oven)
Pabrik Pengalengan Makanan (Cannery)
Tanur Tinggi (Blast Furnace)
Tanur Oksigen Dasar (Basic Oxygen Furnace)
Pabrik Perakitan (Assembly Plant)
Bengkel Logam (Metal Workshop)
Tambang Nitrat (Nitrate Mine)
Perkebunan Rempah (Spice Plantation)
Tambang Fosfat (Phosphate Mine)
Pabrik Ban dan Karet (Tire and Rubber Plant)
Kebun Anggur (Vineyard)
Pembuangan Rongsokan Kapal (Shipbreaker)
Dealer Kendaraan (Vehicle Distributor)
Kilang Alumina (Alumina Refinery)
Pabrik Krio (Cryo Plant)
Tanur Busur Listrik (Electric Arc Furnace)
Pabrik Mesin (Engine Plant)
Pabrik Karbon Hitam (Carbon Black Plant)
Pabrik Bodi Kendaraan (Body Plant)
Tambang Bauksit (Bauxite Mine)
Pabrik Kawat dan Bagian Logam (Wire and Section Mill)
Pabrik Lembaran Besi (Sheet Mill)
Tambang Pirit (Pyrite Mine)
Peleburan Pirit (Pyrite Smelter)
Tambang Soda Abu (Soda Ash Mine)
Stasiun Pembangkit Listrik (Power Plant)
Tempat Penggembalaan (Herding Co-op)
Lahan Gambut (Peatlands)
Pabrik Penggilingan Terak (Slag Grinding Plant)

Typo or inaccurate translate of Indonesian language for AXIS should be updated (also in FIRS) :

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Pekabuhan (Port) => Pelabuhan (new)
Terminal Pengumpulan (Bulk Terminal) => Terminal Curah (new)

ENTIRE CARGOS (translated to Indonesian) - excluding existing or already :

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Singkong (Cassavas)
Tembaga (Coppers)
Potongan Kayu (Logs)
Mangan (Manganese)
Kacang (Nuts)
Fosfat (Phosphates)
Balok Kayu (Timbers)
Asam (Acid)
Amonia (Ammonia)
Amonium Nitrat (Ammonium Nitrate)
Karbon Hitam (Carbon Black)
Baja Karbon (Carbon Steel)
Klorin (Chlorine)
Produk Pembersih (Cleaning Agents)
Kokas (Coke)
Konsentrat Tembaga (Copper Concentrate)
Komponen Listrik (Electrical Parts)
Paduan Besi (Ferroalloy)
Daging & Ikan (Fish & Meat)
Kaca (Glass)
Hidrogen (Hydrogen)
Besi (Iron)
Batu Kapur (Limestone)
Komponen & Kawat Logam (Metal Parts & Wire)
Oksigen (Oxygen)
Kemasan (Packaging)
Cat & Pelapis (Paints & Coatings)
Komponen Plastik (Plastic Parts)
Plastik (Plastics)
Bijih Pirit (Pyrite Ore)
Kapur Mentah (Quicklime)
Komponen Karet (Rubber Parts)
Garam (Salt)
Terak (Slag)
Soda Abu (Soda Ash)
Natrium Hidroksida (Sodium Hyrdoxide)
Lembaran Baja (Sheet Steels)
Sulfur (Sulphir)
Kendaraan (Vehicles)
Bodi Kendaraan (Vehicle Bodies)
Mesin Kendaran (Vehicle Engines)
Suku Cadang Kendaraan (Vehicle Parts)
Seng (Zinc)
Nitrat (Nitrate)
Asam Asetat (Acetic Acid)
Biomassa (Biomass)
Minyak Goreng (Edible)
Bahan peledak (Explosives)
Pupuk (Fertilizer)
Tepung (Flour)
Bahan Tambahan Pangan (Food Addictives)
Biji Minyak (Oil Seeds)
Asam Fosfat (Phosphotic Acid)
Baja (Steel)
Gula (Sugar)
Tebu (Sugar Cane)
Asam sulfur (Sulphuric Acid)
Tekstil (Textiles)
Logam Langka (Rare Metals)
Nafta (Naphtha)
Metanol (Methanol)
Furnitur (Furniture)
Pelat Timah (Tinplate)
Asam hidroklorik (Hydrochloric Acid)
Gambut (Peats)
Kalium Karbonat (Potash)

Economies (translated to Indonesian) :

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Kehidupan Yang Lebih Baik Melalui Kimia (BLTC)
Bandar Besi (SteelTown)
Disebuah Negara yang Panas (In a hot country)
Surga Tropis (Tropical Paradise - actually Basic Tropic)

Thank you for proposal of translation update of Indonesian language localization of AXIS on the next updates, also fix the typos.

[Emperor Jake]

I'll be happy to add your translation update if you open a PR on Github

If you don't know how to do that, just edit the .lang file directly and post your version here.

[Argus]

Such an interesting thing occurred to me. Would it be possible to make an economy that would be interesting for someone who sometimes likes to play with Mars, for example?
For example, I don't enjoy playing Mars with only the basic industry that is there. But when I put another one there, it looks weird.
I don't know if it would be possible to make an economy that would fit there and at the same time be interesting for those who don't play with the Martian landscape.

[Emperor Jake]

That would best be done as a completely separate project. As I mentioned, industry IDs for AXIS are running out and a lot of stuff would have to be changed.

I hope you know about the existing Martian Industries GRF though: viewtopic.php?t=64009

[Bingo]

AXIS looks amazing!! I was a big fan of XIS and will probably use AXIS in a scenario I'm building (in particular the Tropical Paradise economy).

Do you have a complete industry chain diagram for the new economies, like the one you provided with XIS?

[Emperor Jake]

No, unfortunately the auto-generated one doesn't work so there's no full diagram for AXIS Tropical at the moment.

There is one for AXIS Steel City (however it's outdated now as there have been changes in the newest version) courtesy of Discord user Corns McGowan.

I personally find the in-game one easier to use anyway

[Argus]

That would best be done as a completely separate project. As I mentioned, industry IDs for AXIS are running out and a lot of stuff would have to be changed.

I hope you know about the existing Martian Industries GRF though: viewtopic.php?t=64009

I know that, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with Opengfx+ Mars, I didn't download the toyland to Mars conversion. Maybe I'll try it sometime.

[Argus]

By the way, the fact that all the industry is available in Axis from the start is used for testing?
It's kind of funny to carry plastic in the mid-19th century.