Snow in temperate climate (Only Pics)

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IIRC, TTD is governed by UK law, regardless of where you are (understandbly, being a UK product). UK law (directed by the EU, so this should also apply in Germany) states that you own any data or software that is licenced to you. I assume that Oskar has, at some point, legally purchased a copy of the game, including the sprites. No licence agreement may remove your rights under law, so with a legal copy of the game, that copy is yours to do as you like with, to use, play with, modify, copy, etc. To repeat, these rights are inalienable. No software licence may take these rights away from you, regardless of when you initially clicked "Agree". Not to mention that you didn't actually physically sign the agreement (Tip: Never press on a licence agreement to sign things)
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The fact who owns TTD is the most irrelevent thing in human history.
Nobody cares about the copyright, and the company that has the rights doesn't even know it has.

Case closed.
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It's not the problem If I have the right to edit my own copy. It's the law that disallows me to copy changed or unchanged sprites, or work derived from it or the game.

Back to topic again (I thought thats the Graphic Part of the forums?!)
Maybe I should ask Michael for some tips.
But now my new depot pics:
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Post by krtaylor »

Is it theoretically possible for the Patch to rig it such that it switches to the snow at the appropriate time in the year, and switches back in the summer? Or would that completely blow through the sprite limit? If there were alternative versions of each sprite, could it just swap them in memory at the right time, from the hard drive, so as to not use up sprite slots?
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Post by eis_os »

You can change it yourself, simple switch on/off a grf with graphic id.
Tip: cht: graphics

The grf can be produced with grfcodec, grfdiff & grdtogrf *easy*.
Currently I have a set up with a batch file that runs copy, encode, grd creating and then grf creating.

As far as Josef knows replacement sprites don't have a limit. (only your memory)

Ohh and you see on the pic snowy rough land (not stones!).
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Post by krtaylor »

Aha. So this could be built into the Patch to trigger it in the middle of a game, in December and March, say, to go into and out of winter.

Maybe it could trigger a newspape: "First snowfall celebrated!" and "Spring arrives!"

Or is that too cute? :lol:
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Post by eis_os »

I am not working on a season change patch as I said serveral times...
It's for me personal that I want to have snow and can change it via a sign cheat...

Thats all.

(the trees are nerving me, they are totally different in snow climate :( )
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Post by krtaylor »

Well, perhaps public acclaim of your graphics can change your mind... :wink:
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Post by Bart »

And ofcourse the stations, they should be snowy as well, also the larger stations...
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Post by SHADOW-XIII »

Oskar, as we cannot get it, maybe you could give us more screenies ?
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Post by eis_os »

Bart wrote:And ofcourse the stations, they should be snowy as well, also the larger stations...
If I add snow to them I can't look into them anymore... (anyway the will be overwritten later by eyecandy so it's very useless to make changes on them.

More pics?
Editing each and every sprite takes long, or does somebody has a free photoshop snow plugin? (I don't mean a plugin that simple adds white pixels, I mean a plugin that makes green -> bluewhite)

You see 99% of already done sprites, so you have to wait a little bit ;)
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Post by troopper5 »

I'm just getting confused here; you just said that you aren't going to release those sprites, why are you making them? Yourself? And then teasing us here... :roll:
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Post by eis_os »

As you may read, it was a irc request what I did...
Haven't thought that there is so much interesting, and people start asking for more screens, not me... :?

And yes, they are for my personal fun, because I like to make them, because it's something else than patching in assembler.

Maybe it's better I lock this topic :?
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Post by Marcel »

Why lock it? These are good pictures, I like the idea and I really want to see your results. I have no problem with your reasons of not posting the graphics, so please continue posting pics. And everybody can make them on his own :wink: .
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Post by spaceman-spiff »

And we're not prohibiting people to use private mail, now do we *hint, hint *
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And I'm sure we've all heard of screen-scraping...
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Post by eis_os »

I don't see any benefit from this offtopic discussing.
It's better I talk with Michael about snow sprites and their creation...

Or in other words *closed*
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Post by eis_os »

Streetdepots and the first roofs of town buildings:
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Post by ChrisCF »

Looking good :)

I suppose putting some snow on the lawns is probably next. A little snow on the pavements would like good too. Keep up the good work.
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Post by Hyronymus »

Looks promising, eis_os!
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