zBase (32bpp base set by Zephyris)

[Jupix]

Not knowing anything about what Z's models are technically like, I would hazard a guess it would require at least completely overhauling the lighting in the models. That way the set would "pop" like the stuff you see in SimCity 4 at night, for instance.


http://www.gamerstemple.net/games/000350/000350s07.jpg

Buildings need interior lighting, street lamps need to cast light, vehicles need lighting, water can't glitter like during daytime... so you can't just reduce ambient lighting and call it a night set.

[Zephyris]

There is very little post-processing, so technically it could be done fairly "easily". Unfortunately "easily" also involves re-rendering several tens of thousands of images so it is not something I am too keen on doing myself

[bokkie]

There are some weird artifacts when modifying a scenario with zBase (as on Bananas) with trunk (r24673). I don't see it with OpenGFX as a base set.

Other than that, sign and trees in the toolbar aren't drawn yet

[Zephyris]

The artifacts are due to the issues described in this bug report: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5315 It remains to be seen if trunk will be changed to solve this or if I will have to remake all the ground tiles.

As for the GUI I know there are some sprites missing I just need more time! If anyone wants to help with GUI elements that would be great.

[Ammler]

I would recommend to revert the toolbar icons to the default size and make the big icons part of your newgrf biggui

[Digitalfox]

I would recommend to revert the toolbar icons to the default size and make the big icons part of your newgrf biggui

I disagree

I know I'm not using the most used resolution (1080p), but now days people use at least 1024/768, where the GUI is way to small for the resolution.

Before 1080p, I was playing at 1280/1024 and even at that resolution the GUI was small and I even had to increase the size of text so it wouldn't hurt my eyes after a couple of hours of playing.

If I remember correctly, in the beginning of TT and TTD the resolution was 640/480 where it did look good, but now I don't think so.

[planetmaker]

It totally should use the normal GUI size and leave changing GUI size to specific NewGRFs or - preferentially - to a yet-to-be-written method within OpenTTD itself (i.e. something like a user-setting for the zoom level of the GUI elements. Alongside with GUI control over font and font sizes). Supplying totally different GUI sprites still breaks (some) things and makes the set unsuitable for people with small screens (or windows) - which is a pity.

[Digitalfox]

It totally should use the normal GUI size and leave changing GUI size to specific NewGRFs or - preferentially - to a yet-to-be-written method within OpenTTD itself (i.e. something like a user-setting for the zoom level of the GUI elements. Alongside with GUI control over font and font sizes). Supplying totally different GUI sprites still breaks (some) things and makes the set unsuitable for people with small screens (or windows) - which is a pity.

From that perspective, yep you're right

But I'll be honest, " to a yet-to-be-written method within OpenTTD itself", scares me. I seems something that will just be debated with pros and cons and never leave the theory

[Ammler]

The big toolbar does simply not match the rest of the gui, there is still work to do to get the bigger gui which indeed would be very nice. So keep it a kind of prototype in the newgrf.

[thphwh]

How complete is zBase ATM?

[Zephyris]

The non gui graphics are 100% done, excluding a few bugs. The gui graphics are barely started...

It might be a good idea to split the gui to a separate dev grf, purely for tidiness.

[Drikani]

Hi Zephyris,
First of all I love your work.
OpenTTD in 32bpp is AWESOME
But now I wannt to know something.

Do you plan to make 32bpp Textures for your eGRVTS v2 Mod in near future.
Its really wierd to play everything in 32bpp and only the Road Vehicles are 8bpp.

And as you said

The non gui graphics are 100% done, excluding a few bugs. The gui graphics are barely started...

So for me the GUI is with the BigGUI v2 mod really good and if the Textures are finished this would be very nice if you could do that.

eGRVTS v2 is the only good GRF for tram and road vehicle and I love this so much. There is only this one thing missing.

I tried to play GRVTS v1 with 32bpp but for me it doesn't work I dont know why.

Hope you'll answer

Greetz Drikani

sry if my English sucks but I still have to learn ^^

[Zephyris]

OpenTTD in 32bpp is AWESOME

Thanks

Do you plan to make 32bpp Textures for your eGRVTS v2 Mod in near future.
Its really wierd to play everything in 32bpp and only the Road Vehicles are 8bpp.

I would love to but it would be a massive job. There are more images in eGRVTS2 than the the entire of zBase! Hopefully one day.

I tried to play GRVTS v1 with 32bpp but for me it doesn't work I dont know why.

Hmm, strange. I will check it out.

*edit* Just tested it out in a recent nightly and it all works ok. Which version of OpenTTD are you using?

[Drikani]

Which version of OpenTTD are you using?

ATM I play with version 1.2.2
Do I have to use the nightly to play it in 32bpp?

[planetmaker]

Which version of OpenTTD are you using?

ATM I play with version 1.2.2
Do I have to use the nightly to play it in 32bpp?

Any version from 1.2.0 or later will do the job, your version is fine.

[DanMacK]

I'm using 1.2.3, tried it with a recent nightly and when I go to add it, and close the options window, the game crashes...

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*** OpenTTD Crash Report ***

Crash at: Sat Nov 17 04:50:41 2012
In game date: 3024-04-30 (49)

Crash reason:
 Exception: C0000005
 Location:  0000000140185991
 Message:   <none>

OpenTTD version:
 Version:    1.2.3 (0)
 NewGRF ver: 12386051
 Bits:       64
 Endian:     little
 Dedicated:  no
 Build date: Oct 31 2012 21:47:16

Registers:
 RAX: 0000000000005151 RBX: 0000000003E02C88 RCX: 0000000000000051 RDX: 0000000000000000
 RSI: 000000000413130E RDI: 000000000D61C2E8 RBP: 00000000FFE68CA4 RSP: 000000000024E0F0
 R8:  0000000000000000 R9:  000000000000004B R10: 0000000000000000 R11: 00000000000000FF
 R12: 000000000000FF00 R13: 000000000DC79000 R14: 000000000D1B4842 R15: 000000001034E9B0
 RIP: 0000000140185991 EFLAGS: 00010293

 Bytes at instruction pointer:
 41 8B 45 00 45 0F B6 45 00 44 0F B6 56 02 C1 E8 10 0F B6 C8 41 8B 45 00

Stack trace:
 77CA5410 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000D90 00000000 01F00000 00000000
 00000000 00000000 00000D80 00000000 0D61C2E8 00000000 77BE3518 00000000
 07B34A96 00000000 0D61E088 00000000 03AE45C6 00000000 0CE87084 00000000
 000000D3 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000222 00000000
 00000018 00000000 FFFFEF80 00000000 0024E1F0 00000000 3FFE2CF3 00000001
 1034E9B0 00000000 0024E1B0 00000000 00000002 00000000 039533A0 00000000
 03AD2AF8 00000000 03A808C9 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000018 00000018
 00000060 00000060 00000222 000000D3 0D490000 00000000 00000780 00000001
 000A0324 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000005 00000000 000A0324 00000000
 0024E2F9 00000000 3FFE2195 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000222 00000000
 000000D3 00000000 00000000 00000001 0D490000 00000000 00000000 00000000
 00000002 00000000 00000005 00000000 1034E9B0 00000000 3FFE33E0 00000001
 4085C728 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1034E9B0 00000000
 00000000 00000000 04380780 00000000 04380780 00000000 401DD633 00000001
 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 04380780 00000000 0000057F 00000000
 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
 03A6CFD0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000057F 00000000 00000000 00000000
 00000000 00000000 01F03490 00000000 00000005 00000000 00000000 00000000
 000A0324 00000000 77959BD1 00000000 00000005 00000000 00000001 00000000
 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 01F03490 00000000
 00000048 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
 00000030 00000000 FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF 77959B43 00000000

Operating system:
 Name:     Windows
 Release:  6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1)
 Compiler: MSVC 1600

Configuration:
 Blitter:      32bpp-anim
 Graphics set: zBase (245)
 Language:     C:\Games\OpenTTD\lang\english_US.lng
 Music driver: win32
 Music set:    OpenMSX (96)
 Network:      no
 Sound driver: win32
 Sound set:    OpenSFX (87)
 Video driver: win32

AI Configuration (local: 0):
  0: Human
  1: Human
  2: Human
  3: Human

Libraries:
 FreeType:   2.4.5
 ICU:        4.4.2
 LZMA:       5.0.3
 LZO:        2.05
 PNG:        1.5.4
 Zlib:       1.2.5

Module information:
 C:\Games\OpenTTD\openttd.exe handle: 000000013FFC0000 size: 9872384 crc: 9DD5C297 date: 2012-11-01 02:51:00
 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll handle: 0000000077B90000 size: 1731920 crc: 71D20A99 date: 2011-11-17 06:41:18
 C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\snxhk64.dll handle: 0000000072520000 size: 291472 crc: ABA030FC date: 2012-10-30 23:50:30
 C:\Windows\system32\KERNEL32.dll handle: 0000000077820000 size: 1162240 crc: 8775E3D9 date: 2012-08-20 18:48:35
 C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll handle: 000007FEFE350000 size: 424448 crc: FC658D8C date: 2012-08-20 18:48:35
 C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll handle: 000007FEF80A0000 size: 217600 crc: 7BC1529F date: 2009-07-14 01:41:56
 C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll handle: 000007FEFE6D0000 size: 634880 crc: 9D1B448A date: 2011-12-16 08:46:06
 C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll handle: 0000000077940000 size: 1008128 crc: 70FF7D7F date: 2010-11-21 03:24:09
 C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll handle: 000007FEFE770000 size: 403968 crc: 3D5BC405 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:03
 C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll handle: 000007FEFEAD0000 size: 41984 crc: 350AF03B date: 2009-07-14 01:41:19
 C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll handle: 000007FEFFA80000 size: 800256 crc: B511F4B9 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:08
 C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll handle: 000007FEFFDB0000 size: 297984 crc: 0F68689B date: 2010-11-21 03:24:28
 C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll handle: 000007FEFE3C0000 size: 1219584 crc: 5217F07C date: 2010-11-21 03:24:02
 C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll handle: 000007FEFE7E0000 size: 13824 crc: 53B46F6C date: 2009-07-14 01:41:53
 C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll handle: 000007FEFE7F0000 size: 877056 crc: FA615A20 date: 2009-07-14 01:40:01
 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll handle: 000007FEFE8D0000 size: 113664 crc: 978CFAE5 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:53
 C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll handle: 000007FEFECF0000 size: 14172672 crc: 80527F5B date: 2012-06-09 05:43:10
 C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll handle: 000007FEFFD30000 size: 448512 crc: 086DF743 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:22
 C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.DLL handle: 000007FEFE990000 size: 167424 crc: 41B2805A date: 2009-07-14 01:41:09
 C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll handle: 000007FEFE9C0000 size: 1067008 crc: 798DDDA0 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:28
 C:\Windows\system32\SHFolder.dll handle: 000007FEF0D90000 size: 10240 crc: 08A48DE3 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:54
 C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll handle: 000007FEFEAE0000 size: 2086912 crc: 72F91CD0 date: 2010-11-21 03:23:48
 C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll handle: 000007FEFC710000 size: 332288 crc: B0A13DF9 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:56
 C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTBASE.dll handle: 000007FEFDEE0000 size: 44032 crc: F547C16E date: 2009-07-14 01:40:24
 C:\Windows\system32\mswsock.dll handle: 000007FEFD7B0000 size: 326144 crc: 136B1525 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:00
 C:\Windows\System32\wshtcpip.dll handle: 000007FEFD1D0000 size: 13312 crc: 5D1E2C55 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:58
 C:\Windows\system32\MMDevAPI.DLL handle: 000007FEFC8C0000 size: 284160 crc: CDF2EF81 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:26
 C:\Windows\system32\PROPSYS.dll handle: 000007FEFC790000 size: 1212416 crc: B83FA3BE date: 2010-11-21 03:23:55
 C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll handle: 000007FEFFB50000 size: 861696 crc: 1F331414 date: 2011-08-27 05:37:49
 C:\Windows\system32\wdmaud.drv handle: 000007FEFB680000 size: 217088 crc: 12829973 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:32
 C:\Windows\system32\ksuser.dll handle: 0000000070710000 size: 5120 crc: AA2071D9 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:13
 C:\Windows\system32\AVRT.dll handle: 000007FEFC940000 size: 18432 crc: 5CE53CB7 date: 2009-07-14 01:40:05
 C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll handle: 000007FEFE4F0000 size: 1900544 crc: A364BD6A date: 2010-11-21 03:24:28
 C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll handle: 000007FEFE0C0000 size: 207872 crc: 1984C339 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:00
 C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll handle: 000007FEFE0A0000 size: 93184 crc: A7541AE2 date: 2009-07-14 01:40:28
 C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL handle: 000007FEF61C0000 size: 296448 crc: 90389554 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:32
 C:\Windows\system32\msacm32.drv handle: 000007FEFB5A0000 size: 25600 crc: 2B579A05 date: 2009-07-14 01:38:50
 C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll handle: 000007FEFB490000 size: 83456 crc: 3D67538B date: 2009-07-14 01:41:27
 C:\Windows\system32\midimap.dll handle: 000007FEFB590000 size: 20480 crc: CB902A13 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:23
 C:\Windows\system32\CLBCatQ.DLL handle: 000007FEFE8F0000 size: 607744 crc: 939E35C9 date: 2009-07-14 01:40:15
 C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll handle: 000007FEFBF90000 size: 82432 crc: A459F360 date: 2009-07-14 01:40:34
 C:\Windows\System32\wship6.dll handle: 000007FEFD9D0000 size: 13824 crc: E3FBF123 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:58
 C:\Windows\system32\DNSAPI.dll handle: 000007FEFD640000 size: 357888 crc: 194CAF1C date: 2011-03-03 06:24:15
 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLIDNSP.DLL handle: 000007FEF9050000 size: 170880 crc: 0457B743 date: 2010-09-21 21:49:00
 C:\Windows\system32\PSAPI.DLL handle: 0000000077D50000 size: 9216 crc: 84B5E9BA date: 2009-07-14 01:41:53
 C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mdnsNSP.dll handle: 0000000070BB0000 size: 132968 crc: C16E0B30 date: 2011-08-31 03:05:32
 C:\Windows\system32\Iphlpapi.DLL handle: 000007FEFB4D0000 size: 145920 crc: 000D9F17 date: 2010-11-21 03:24:16
 C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL handle: 000007FEFB4B0000 size: 26112 crc: 744B2434 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:56
 C:\Windows\system32\rasadhlp.dll handle: 000007FEF9040000 size: 16384 crc: C5FD1616 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:53
 C:\Windows\System32\fwpuclnt.dll handle: 000007FEFB130000 size: 324096 crc: 37B502C2 date: 2009-07-14 01:40:55
 C:\Windows\system32\mciseq.dll handle: 000007FEFC950000 size: 28672 crc: 61BC1358 date: 2009-07-14 01:41:21

---- gamelog start ----
Tick 2179: game loaded
     Revision text changed to 1.2.0, savegame version 174, not modified, _openttd_newgrf_version = 0x12005dce
     New game mode: 1 landscape: 0
Tick 2179: game loaded
     Revision text changed to 1.2.3, savegame version 174, not modified, _openttd_newgrf_version = 0x12386051
     New game mode: 0 landscape: 0
---- gamelog end ----

*** End of OpenTTD Crash Report ***

Decoded stack trace:
[00] openttd              0x0000000140185991
[01] openttd              0x000000013FFE2CF3
[02] openttd              0x000000013FFE2195
[03] openttd              0x000000013FFE33E0
[04] openttd              0x00000001401DD633
[05] USER32               0x0000000077959BD1 TranslateMessageEx + 673
[06] USER32               0x0000000077956AA8 SetTimer + 376
[07] USER32               0x00000000779526F8 GetSystemMenu + 312
[08] USER32               0x000000007795760E SetWindowTextW + 1466
[09] uxtheme              0x000007FEFC711644
[10] uxtheme              0x000007FEFC711445
[11] USER32               0x00000000779589D3 GetWindowDC + 227
[12] openttd              0x00000001401DDB85
[13] USER32               0x0000000077958971 GetWindowDC + 129
[14] USER32               0x00000000779572CB SetWindowTextW + 631
[15] USER32               0x0000000077952651 GetSystemMenu + 145
[16] ntdll                0x0000000077BE1225 KiUserCallbackDispatcher + 31
[17] USER32               0x000000007796395A mouse_event + 198
[18] USER32               0x000000007796378B ChangeDisplaySettingsW + 31
[19] openttd              0x00000001401DD56E
[20] USER32               0x0000000077959BD1 TranslateMessageEx + 673
[21] USER32               0x00000000779572CB SetWindowTextW + 631
[22] USER32               0x0000000077956829 IsDialogMessageW + 361
[23] ntdll                0x0000000077BE1225 KiUserCallbackDispatcher + 31
[24] USER32               0x000000007794CBFA DestroyWindow + 10
[25] openttd              0x00000001401DCECE
[26] openttd              0x00000001401DE4CC
[27] openttd              0x000000013FFE40F6
[28] openttd              0x00000001400F957F
[29] openttd              0x000000014010CABD
[30] openttd              0x000000014010CDB6
[31] openttd              0x000000013FFFF726
[32] openttd              0x00000001400013BB
[33] openttd              0x0000000140002382
[34] openttd              0x00000001401DE3B5
[35] openttd              0x0000000140000DE3
[36] openttd              0x00000001401E08CE
[37] openttd              0x00000001402DB9AC
[38] KERNEL32             0x000000007783652D BaseThreadInitThunk + 13
[39] ntdll                0x0000000077BBC521 RtlUserThreadStart + 33

*** End of additional info ***

I've had zbase working before, don't know what's up... probably something simple/stupid I'm doing

[54x]

Just wanted to thank you, Zephyris, for your amazing work on this highly polished and consistent set, your hours of work on it have turned out great and open TTD looks so beautiful without being pixelated all the time.

[Zephyris]

I'm using 1.2.3, tried it with a recent nightly and when I go to add it, and close the options window, the game crashes...

It should "just work", crashes must be a bug in OpenTTD really....

Just wanted to thank you, Zephyris, for your amazing work on this highly polished and consistent set, your hours of work on it have turned out great and open TTD looks so beautiful without being pixelated all the time.

Thanks, it is really appreciated

[Gremnon]

Not quite sure whether this is me, OpenTTDCoop or zBase, but I keep getting this whenever I try to do a hg clone (just as it says in the readme)

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hg clone http://hg.openttdcoop.org/zbase
destination directory: zbase
requesting all changes
adding changesets
adding manifests
adding file changes
transaction abort!
rollback completed
abort: stream ended unexpectedly (got 181 bytes, expected 1724)

Often with different numbers for both of them. Usually takes a few hours appearing to stick at 'adding file changes' before it gives up and does the rest, leaving me with... well, nothing.

[Zephyris]

Have you tried pulling before? When I was first setting up access to the repo I had a few problems with the file size...