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New "sell whole train" button
Posted: 11 Aug 2004 11:59
by dominik81
You all know the nice little "sell whole train" button, right under the "sell wagon" trash can in the train depot window. Currently we're using the dynamite icon for this button. I just chose this icon because no other suitable icon was available at that time, but I never thought it described very good what this button is for. Therefore I would love to see any suggestions for a new icon! Any ideas?
Posted: 11 Aug 2004 12:01
by BobXP
I think the dynamite is appropriate for that.
Can you make the button the size of the icon, though, so it doesn't look so strange?
Also, fix that horizontal scrollbar.

Posted: 11 Aug 2004 17:05
by spaceman-spiff
A train engine with a big red cross over it ?
Posted: 11 Aug 2004 17:27
by Wolf01
spaceman-spiff wrote:A train engine with a big red cross over it ?
also the trash button should be changed, i think that is better this:
trash = an engine or a wagon with a red x and under the "x1"
sell whole train = an engine or a wagon with a red x and something that remember that all carriages since the waon you have selected will be sold
Posted: 11 Aug 2004 17:27
by Born Acorn
the bin with ALL written on it?
Posted: 11 Aug 2004 17:33
by Wolf01
if the buttons were horizontal, it would be possible to paint the whole train (a train with 3 or 4 wagons) in the sell whole train button
Posted: 25 Aug 2004 17:46
by FordBronco
Maybe instead of the garbage bin, a Trainegine/trailer with one Dollar sign on top and for the "sell whole train" a small pic,that shows a train from this perspective with some trailers.
And 3 Dollar signs on top.
Posted: 26 Aug 2004 11:16
by Braino
I guess you wont get a proper picture of this in the special small icon size...
Posted: 26 Aug 2004 11:49
by Wolf01
or a picture like this:
Sell = (picture of one wagon) x1
Sell whole train =
where
XX are the wagons
[--...--] is a red line that mean the whole train (from here
[ to here
])
Posted: 26 Aug 2004 18:48
by FordBronco
Braino wrote:I guess you wont get a proper picture of this in the special small icon size...
Hmm its not impossible either.
Posted: 27 Aug 2004 05:14
by worldofklaus
well it may be recognizeable, but it doesn't really suit the other graphic, I think.
If we really want to have suitable graphics, wouldn't the thrashcan need to be replaced as well? Otherwise, you might just as well leave the dynamite in position. It may not be very realistic to just put explosives in an old train you currently don't need

, but it suits a thrashcan, because it is kind of "stronger", and it also isn't too realistic to put a wagon in a thrashcan.
Personally I like the idea of one wagon crossed out red for sell wagon and a few wagns crossed out red for sell whole train better.
Posted: 27 Aug 2004 10:02
by ThorRune
maybe...
Posted: 27 Aug 2004 21:16
by Hadez
Good work. That's enough...
Posted: 29 Aug 2004 10:24
by ChrisHuebsch
The German word for sell is "verkaufen". I don't think this would fit into the icon.
I suggest an icon without text and create the text as a tooltip.
Posted: 29 Aug 2004 10:36
by Hadez
Then you won't need any new icons. Don't tell me everybody don't know what does "sell" and "sell all" mean.
Posted: 29 Aug 2004 12:34
by worldofklaus
Maybe, but then you might just as well leave the whole game in English.
- What about putting the sell buttons at the bottom of the window and making them horizontal?
Posted: 31 Aug 2004 07:43
by Gorre
Leave the dynamite destruction button as it and simply add a red small "something" in front of the whole train. You will sell whole the train by clicking on it.
Posted: 31 Aug 2004 15:47
by worldofklaus
But in this case only with a special dialog window to assure you don't sell any important (and perhaps loaded) trains accidentally.
Because it happens very easily that you click on a wrong button accidentally when you've been playing for a while, so you might confuse it with the start/stop train-flag-thing in front of every train.
Posted: 27 Nov 2004 22:03
by Dakkus
worldofklaus wrote:But in this case only with a special dialog window to assure you don't sell any important (and perhaps loaded) trains accidentally.
Because it happens very easily that you click on a wrong button accidentally when you've been playing for a while, so you might confuse it with the start/stop train-flag-thing in front of every train.
I think such a dialog would be handy, but would irritate the players. Right now I can think of two ways of getting around this:
1) Make it easily possible to disable the feature either from a menu or by holding down some key on the keyboard.
2) Make it possible to undo the selling, if less than f.ex. 15 seconds have passed.
Posted: 28 Nov 2004 01:06
by DaleStan
I still like TTDPatch's (admittedly jury-rigged) method: depress CTRL to sell all including and after (but not before) the vehicle in question.
I especially like being able to drag things out of the depot window to sell them, instead of having to hit this tiny little target.