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[OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 10 Aug 2021 18:27
by flogeza
City Objects
Version: 1.4
-Buildings
-Tiles/Decorations
-Landmarks
-Canals
-Footbridges
-Billboards
-and more
COv1.4.GRF
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City Objects Extras
Version: 2.0
-parks
-buildings
-decorations
-landmarks
COextrasv2.0.GRF
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Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 11 Aug 2021 07:01
by adpro
Nice objects. However, I have suggestions for adjustments. They relate to CVN-68 Nimitz and R09 Prince of Wales. Flight deck of R09 is very bright, original flight deck is darker (https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organi ... e-of-wales). And identification letter P is in real before first line, you have it before 2nd line. P letter could be closer to start of flight deck. https://www.navylookout.com/one-of-the- ... -of-wales/
I didn’t find photo with red-white line on landing deck of CVN-68. All photos I found was with yellow-white line on landing deck. And catapults can be made like dark line in the middle and bright line around it. Catapult line is very wide now with one color.
Otherwise ships are great, good work.

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 11 Aug 2021 13:43
by flogeza
dares wrote: 11 Aug 2021 07:01 Otherwise ships are great, good work.

Thanks.

dares wrote: 11 Aug 2021 07:01 Flight deck of R09 is very bright, original flight deck is darker (https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organi ... e-of-wales). And identification letter P is in real before first line, you have it before 2nd line. P letter could be closer to start of flight deck. https://www.navylookout.com/one-of-the- ... -of-wales/

So they aren't identical to those ships in real life, like their names's says "Nimitz class aircr... and Queen Elizabeth class...". I need to draw things like the "P" mark, and the deck color to fit in. P's position was chosen bc if Im placing the plane towards the tower,so placing the "P" in the original place, it looks soo packed there. Also in case I need to change something on the ship, easier to do if the plane isn't there. AND I wanted to show the mark( its an interesting thing to draw) - design choice

Deck's color is the same, there aren't many colors to choose from, so if I want the deck to fit with the towers and the ramp, and skipping tones for shadows, I need to choose that color with that tone. - design choice

dares wrote: 11 Aug 2021 07:01 I didn’t find photo with red-white line on landing deck of CVN-68. All photos I found was with yellow-white line on landing deck. And catapults can be made like dark line in the middle and bright line around it. Catapult line is very wide now with one color.
The red white thing fits better with those colors, than the yellow, also you are the first who noticed it and told it to me. - I can recolor it to yellow, but it looks worse.

The catapul was made with more "texture on it", that thing is 3 pixels wide, if I want a solid line in there I need to widen it or It will look more cartoonish, just like it's runway. So I made a compromise. - design choice


Also please consider that, I need to do these in a minimum time with the best outcome as possible.
If you make corrections for these what you listed, and they look better. I can make it into the GRF.

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 12 Aug 2021 05:57
by adpro
flogeza wrote: 11 Aug 2021 13:43
dares wrote: 11 Aug 2021 07:01 Flight deck of R09 is very bright, original flight deck is darker (https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organi ... e-of-wales). And identification letter P is in real before first line, you have it before 2nd line. P letter could be closer to start of flight deck. https://www.navylookout.com/one-of-the- ... -of-wales/

So they aren't identical to those ships in real life, like their names's says "Nimitz class aircr... and Queen Elizabeth class...". I need to draw things like the "P" mark, and the deck color to fit in. P's position was chosen bc if Im placing the plane towards the tower,so placing the "P" in the original place, it looks soo packed there. Also in case I need to change something on the ship, easier to do if the plane isn't there. AND I wanted to show the mark( its an interesting thing to draw) - design choice

Deck's color is the same, there aren't many colors to choose from, so if I want the deck to fit with the towers and the ramp, and skipping tones for shadows, I need to choose that color with that tone. - design choice

If they are not identical with those ships, my suggestion is not to use the designation for a specific ship, ie. do not use either the Q or P character and use another character that is not used in the fleet. This will not evoke a particular ship, which Q and P do. Then it is not a problem to put this character elsewhere than in the original. Then it is more clear that the graphics are based on Queen Elizabeth class motifs and not a copy of the original. At least for me.
flogeza wrote: 11 Aug 2021 13:43
dares wrote: 11 Aug 2021 07:01 I didn’t find photo with red-white line on landing deck of CVN-68. All photos I found was with yellow-white line on landing deck. And catapults can be made like dark line in the middle and bright line around it. Catapult line is very wide now with one color.
The red white thing fits better with those colors, than the yellow, also you are the first who noticed it and told it to me. - I can recolor it to yellow, but it looks worse.

The catapul was made with more "texture on it", that thing is 3 pixels wide, if I want a solid line in there I need to widen it or It will look more cartoonish, just like it's runway. So I made a compromise. - design choice

My personal opinion is different, I like the original combination more, but you are the author, it's finally your decision. I respect that.

You're right, drawing a catapult in such a small space is a problem, I know what it's about. I had in mind a solution like I have at airports aka the aircraft carriers Charles de Gaulle (R91) or USS Enterprise (CVAN-65) in Military Items newgrf, where the medium is darker and the edge lighter, see the picture.
cvn65_and_r91_catapults.png
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flogeza wrote: 11 Aug 2021 13:43 Also please consider that, I need to do these in a minimum time with the best outcome as possible.
If you make corrections for these what you listed, and they look better. I can make it into the GRF.
You speak to me from the bottom of my heart, I fully understand.
If I have some time, then I'll try to modify the catapult, but now I'm focusing on a new version of Military Items newgrf, so it probably won't be in the near future.

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 17 Aug 2021 12:51
by flogeza
- Good idea to make new signs for them, I'll make the new ones with fictional signs/marks.

- The problem with the catapult is the different rotation from +/- 45 degree.

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 02 Oct 2021 05:47
by flogeza
CO Extras 1.5 uploaded.

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 02 Oct 2021 10:59
by temporal8
Nice, these objects are some of the most used in my maps. Great work.

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 02 Oct 2021 18:18
by flogeza
temporal8 wrote: 02 Oct 2021 10:59 Nice, these objects are some of the most used in my maps. Great work.
Thank you :D

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 25 Sep 2023 17:58
by RoyalExamination9410
It would be nice to make the aircraft carriers actual ships that could be sailed, thousands of people (crew) could be transported in this way

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 25 Sep 2023 19:34
by flogeza
Heyy, I made Nimitz as a useable ship.

See at:
viewtopic.php?t=71516&start=200

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 16 Dec 2023 14:19
by Quast65
Where can we find the sources to your projects?

Re: [OTTD] City Objects & Extras

Posted: 31 Jan 2024 13:04
by flogeza
Quast65 wrote: 16 Dec 2023 14:19 Where can we find the sources to your projects?
I think we discussed this on Discord. :]