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pop06095 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021 02:08 Here is what I made using OTIS and objects.

I took a look at your .sav

1) buses won't carry workers or passengers

I think you mean Workers and Tourists, passenger-busses do show up.
Workers and Tourists have a label that is not supported by all vehicle sets, if you like to use CC-busses, then use for example NARVS
viewtopic.php?p=1214745#p1214745
(also on BaNaNas)

2) no cargo trams

They were indeed not there in your save-game, however when I save the GRF-list and start a new game with that GRF-list the cargo trams do show up.. Could you check if that is the same with you?
Also check if they show up, if you just have OTIS and the Cargo trams in your GRF list.

3) alcohol is not accepted at the residential industry

That is a deliberate choice.
With this set, we dont want a direct link between Manufacturing Industries and Residential Industries (the link between them are the Shopping Centres).
For resorts, you could just use the Shopping Centre, as that also accepts/produces Passengers and Tourists.
If you want extra's, like for example Workers, then combine two (or more) tiles (so in this case, Residential + Shopping) and try to hide those.

Thanks for the reply, answers and ideas. I made a fresh game with the same NEWGRFs, and there were cargo trams. I am going to try another smaller map, use the idea of putting two industries down to accommodate stuff like alcohol being delivered and handling potatoes and vegetables.

Thanks again for putting this together.

pop06095 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2021 01:42 Thanks again for putting this together.

Thank you for playing with it!

No updates, just mentioning that OTIS is now also available on the Ingame downloader (BaNaNas)

Quast65 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021 21:06

Potatoes as "POTA", which is used by Potash?

After over 60 cargo's we just wanted to fill up the last couple of cargo-slots
We were not that original anymore with names, POTAtoes looked logical and it mostly refits vehicles like we would want.

You missed a trick by not using the label SPUD

But seriously, it makes it a bit tricky designing a vehicle set that's fully compatible with both FIRS and OTIS because potash and potatoes are quite different cargoes and it makes it impossible to give them different appearances and refits. Please consider fixing it

And before anyone calls me out as being a hypocrite due to my renaming of Kaolin to Lithium etc. in XIS, I realise it wasn't ideal. It was due to my limitations in editing the FIRS code and I'll fix it at some point. It's no huge deal anyway, it'll just result in slightly odd refits that the average player won't even notice...

Emperor Jake wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021 05:41 You missed a trick by not using the label SPUD

Shall have a yawn with Quast65 and see what we can come up with.

I found the code TATO Vegetables (Potatos) 00A4 Express, piece goods, refrigerated .. but no idea where I got this code from .. it was way back in the early days of my coding, so whether it be better

GarryG wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021 06:00

Emperor Jake wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021 05:41 You missed a trick by not using the label SPUD

Shall have a yawn with Quast65 and see what we can come up with.

I found the code TATO Vegetables (Potatos) 00A4 Express, piece goods, refrigerated .. but no idea where I got this code from .. it was way back in the early days of my coding, so whether it be better

I'm ok with TATO

Version 03

Version 03 released on Bananas, here are the sources:

Erato wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021 12:13

Hi Erato,
would you mind altering the Wiki?
https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes
Cargo Potatoes no longer has cargolabel POTA, but cargolabel TATO
refits: 00A4 Express, piece goods, refrigerated (same as before)

Quast65 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021 14:30 Hi Erato,
would you mind altering the Wiki?
https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes
Cargo Potatoes no longer has cargolabel POTA, but cargolabel TATO
refits: 00A4 Express, piece goods, refrigerated (same as before)

Done

Erato wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021 14:43 Done

Thank you very kindly!

May I also request changing the labels for Nickel Ore NICK to NKOR (to be consistent with Industries of the Caribbean) and for Cotton SASH to FICR (to be consistent with FIRS)

These inconsistencies make it hard for vehicle set authors to properly support this set, thanks

May I also request changing the labels for Nickel Ore NICK to NKOR (to be consistent with Industries of the Caribbean) and for Cotton SASH to FICR (to be consistent with FIRS)

I'll have a yarn with Quast65 and see what we can do.

Cheers

GarryG wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022 11:48

May I also request changing the labels for Nickel Ore NICK to NKOR (to be consistent with Industries of the Caribbean) and for Cotton SASH to FICR (to be consistent with FIRS)

I'll have a yarn with Quast65 and see what we can do.

Cheers

I'm fine with that.
If I recall correctly, SASH for Cotton was chosen so it would show up as a pile of white stuff for waiting cargo with CHIPS.
Probably same with NICK.

But I think the compatibility for vehicle-sets is more important.

@GarryG, If you post the Sources and GRF for version-4 here, then I will download it and upload it to BaNaNas.

Quast65 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022 12:17 I'm fine with that.
If I recall correctly, SASH for Cotton was chosen so it would show up as a pile of white stuff for waiting cargo with CHIPS.
Probably same with NICK.

But I think the compatibility for vehicle-sets is more important.

@GarryG, If you post the Sources and GRF for version-4 here, then I will download it and upload it to BaNaNas.

Here the source for version 4 and also game file.

I changed all references of the cotton code SASH to FICR and nickle code NICK to NKOR.

Cheers

Version 04 released on BaNaNas

Erato wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021 14:43

Hi Erato,
would you mind altering the Wiki?
https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes
Cargo Nickel no longer has cargolabel NICK, but cargolabel NKOR
Cargo Cotton no longer has cargolabel SASH, but cargolabel FICR

Quast65 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022 09:18

Done. You do realise you misspelt Nickel as Nickle right? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nickle

Erato wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022 11:05 Done.

Thank you!

You do realise you misspelt Nickel as Nickle right?

Whoops
Never noticed that ingame, as I use the Dutch language file.
Thnx for pointing that out, We'll keep it in mind for another update!
I put it in the suggestions list on first post

Erato wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022 11:05 You do realise you misspelt Nickel as Nickle right?

It my keyboards fault. It has a habit of making spelling mistakes and putting in the wrong letters. I haven't been able to get a keyboard that doesn't make mistakes.

Speaking of spelling mistakes .. what word do every one always spell wrong?

Here up date to Otis_v04 with Nickle being replaced with Nickel.

Cheers

EDIT

I removed the files as I labelled them wrong .. they should been version 5 which is on the next page.

GarryG wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022 12:08 Here up date to Otis_v04 with Nickle being replaced with Nickel.

Can you code it as v05 please mate?
That makes it better for people (and BaNaNas) to keep track

GarryG wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022 12:08 Speaking of spelling mistakes .. what word do every one always spell wrong?

Ummm.... That's wrong. Spelled w-r-o-n-g.

Pete.