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Locomotions graphics good or bad?

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 12:05
by Born Acorn
I grpahics are great, but there is something about them which is a bit iffy.

They are highly detailed, you can even see individual chimney pots, but they seem to look like porridge? By this I mean there is no proper shading, just darks and lights in the same place and then darker lights and darks where the shadows are.

I hope Simon foster is working on this.

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 12:09
by Derek McD
I don't mind them, but they do need some work. I like the idea for the "s" bend track for rail networks

the corners are curved not a sharp 45 degree angle like they are now.

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 12:12
by Arathorn
I like them so far, off course they need a lot of working on them.

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 12:12
by Born Acorn
there are also similarities with RCT

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 12:30
by Derek McD
being built on the RCT2 engine i'd expect there to be simmilar graphics.

I think RCT graphics contain more detail than TTD anyway.

I own the both collections so far

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 14:24
by dizcon
Much of the graphics need improvement. Bridges doesn't look very good, shadows, etc.
But keep this in mind: The screenshots are JPG-compressed to 408KiB :wink:

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 16:40
by Louie Armstrong
I think maybe the bridges would look A LOT better if the ballast filled the whole bridge not just under the rails,

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 17:32
by Bart
Hmm... graphics look good overall, but appear too... colorless. TTD has strong colors (in a very good way)... Like, the grass is green, the roads are grey... That is one of the reasons why I like TTD so much, the colorfull style of the graphics. Skipping that with Locomotion would make me rather sad (game will become far too serious...)

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 18:02
by Born Acorn
Bart wrote:Hmm... graphics look good overall, but appear too... colorless. TTD has strong colors (in a very good way)... Like, the grass is green, the roads are grey... That is one of the reasons why I like TTD so much, the colorfull style of the graphics. Skipping that with Locomotion would make me rather sad (game will become far too serious...)
The grass is green?
I thought that would be obvious. :P

I know what you mean, the grass isn't green, more like white added to green, its all pale.

and THATS the reason I don't like it, before I couldn't explain it, but you have enlightened me.

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 22:18
by DanMacK
Personally, I like the graphics. Yes, the shading and such needs work. Yes the bridges need a bit of work, but on the whole, I'd say it's a worthy sequel. There's a difference between looking "serious" and looking realistic. However the steep slopes add challenges, they're not completely bad.

Basically, it's a full TTD sequel, in the style of Chris Sawyer's other games (which isn't a bad thing at all). Let's wait until we see more before we pass judgement. As I said, I have faith that Chris'll bring us a quality title. In the meantime I'll keep playign TTD :)

Posted: 03 Apr 2004 22:18
by Derek McD
if it is being built on RCT2 and contains the "landcaping" function, you should be able to change the color of the landscape. That means you can have grass with pink and purple polka-dots.

I must say they are dull but thoses screens are compressed jpg images and there's proberly an alpha effect applied to the images so people can't rip them off.

Personally, I'm sick and tired of the bridges in TTD. RCT never really had bridges but they look different and that is what I want.

I suggest you wait and see what the actual game looks like. Also think about you contrast/brightness on the monitor they effect images too.

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 01:47
by tenacioustheforesaken
its using an enhanced version of the RCT2 engine, its the same thing but hes adding to it. these screen shots are development not the final product, so this poll is useless until it actually comes out. there needs to be a lot of work put into it yet. the graphics might change, we dont know.

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 02:58
by krtaylor
Does anybody know if Chris Sawyer draws his own graphics, or does he have someone else do it?

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 03:36
by RaptorTycoon
I think CS has a team of people to work with him, as is usual with commercial games..

It looks Dank

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 05:20
by MHTransport
The graphics of TTD and RCT always appealed to me because they were bright and cheerful. Where as the Locomotion screens look like they were taken in a economically depressed drought affected european city on an overcast day. I like a game that is an escape. So brighten up the graphics and liven the colour and it will seem better. Decresing the detail can also improve a bitmap graphic.

But the screen shots are cluttered and out of scale. I just hope it is easier to see all the detail than in RCT2. And drop

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 06:23
by spaceman-spiff
Graphics will change a lot, it still looks too bad comparing to TTD
I have serious problems with how the lifted rail looks, you can't really tell if it's a glitch or intentional

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 12:18
by orudge
krtaylor wrote:Does anybody know if Chris Sawyer draws his own graphics, or does he have someone else do it?
Simon Foster did the graphics for TT, TTD and RCT (I don't know about RCT2).

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 12:22
by Born Acorn
SIMON FOSTER

SIMON FOSTER is a computer graphics artist with many years' commercial experience in graphics design. Simon is the artist behind Chris Sawyer's games Transport Tycoon, The Scenario Disk and Transport Tycoon DeLuxe, both published by MicroProse. He also worked with Dima Pavlovsky on Dima's original PC game, Hot Potato, and was responsible for the superb graphics in RollerCoaster Tycoon, RollerCoaster Tycoon/Corkscrew Follies and RollerCoaster Tycoon/Loopy Landscapes for Chris Sawyer.

Re: It looks Dank

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 12:27
by krtaylor
MHTransport wrote: Where as the Locomotion screens look like they were taken in a economically depressed drought affected european city on an overcast day.
So, he's being more realistic this time. That's OK I guess.

Posted: 04 Apr 2004 13:26
by SHADOW-XIII
to people who voted yes: How it can be good graphic ? (laughing)