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Update - November 9, 2011
For various reasons OzTrans has left the Canset development team. That said, the 1.0 release in the North American graphics archive will have to suffice for awhile longer.
I have told the other members of the team (wallyweb and ISA), and have also contacted Pikka about taking over the reins and getting this set back on track. That said, he's got a couple of projects that need finishing up, and I do as well. There's A LOT of work involved as the set will need to be recoded from scratch.
Look for something to happen beginning in the new year.
I'd like to thank OzTrans for getting this set to where it is now and for his hard work the last 7 years.
I'm sorry people have to wait a bit longer for the next release, but trust me, the results will be worth it.
**NOTE** As of 03/24/10 Version 0.3 has been released and I'm reassigning this thread to the development thread. Downloads for Version 3.0a and subsequent releases can be found in This Thread
Pretty much, there were a few smaller lines here and there =>the St. Clair and Detroit tunnels were electricifed at one time and CN had electrification around Montreal (Which now uses electric MU's), but until Tumbler Ridge in the 80's, there hasn't been any major electrification. I was thinking of possibly adding a CNR boxcab or Electric MU <=Both these pictures are of the Montreal operations. Numerous schemes have been proposed/mostly by CP in the Mountains, but nothing ever came of them.krtaylor wrote:Are there any electric locos? I think there are a few industrial electrifications in Canada, but nothing mainline?
We had A LOT of interurban lines around Ontario and quebec however, so maybe an older style electric boxcab (Maybe a steeplecab) and a couple of old interurban coaches may be needed.
That'd be a definite to include!
Gotta get the US set done first tho'
After I posted I did a little digging and found out that we do have some electric locos. I'll do a little more research and post a few suggestions later.krtaylor wrote:Well, Montreal has a fairly extensive commuter suburban system, which uses EMUs now but used to use boxcabs. Also there's a freight ore system somewhere with very powerful locos, but that is relatively recent. Canada doesn't have monorails or maglevs either, so it would be nice to include electrified if we can.
Interurbans: Interurban lines were basically the predecessors to the urban commuter lines of today. They linked outlying towns with the larger cities, and in some cases, like the London & Port Stanley, were actually extensive freight haulers.
Freight locomotives looked like Centrecabs like this one on the Cornwall Street Railway, or Boxcabs like this one on the London & Port Stanley Railway.
Interurban passenger trains were mainly motor coaches like No. 10 on the L&PS and mail/baggage was carried in cars like No. 41 on the Niagara, St. Catherines & Toronto Railway. Unpowered and powered trailers aere also commonplace.
The additions above would also make an interesting addition to the US set
"Tunnel Electrics": This is basically my term, and covers the electrics that were used in Ontario and Quebec for hauling steam (and diesel in some cases) trains through the Detroit River, St. Clair River in Ontario and the Mount Royal tunnels in Montreal, Quebec.
The Ontario electrics were used for hauling trains out of the steep grades on the border tunnels underneath the St. Clair and Detroit rivers. These were retired in the 1940's/50's when diesels became commonplace. Montreal's network is a bit more extensive. In a previous message I showed links to both the Montreal Boxcabs and the older EMU's. There were also a few Steeplecabs built in the 1950's.
Industrial: The International Nickel Co. (INCO) had a number of electrics, but these are mainly for hauling ore from the mines to the smelters, and not adequate for long-haul service. Most of these are similar to the Interurban Centrecabs.
Tumbler Ridge: The BC Rail's Tumbler Ridge branch was the only heavy mainline freight electricifation in Canadian history. The GF6C locomotives were built by General Motors Diesel in London, Ontario. This loco appears in MB's Arctic set. As I said before, CP had thought several times about electrifying its route through the Rockies, but nothing came of it. In the late 90's, the GF6C's were retired, and with CNR taking over the line, it's doubtful they'll ever see active service again.
There really isn't much to add as far as electrics go in a Canadian set, maybe a 1920's era GE boxcab/centrecab, but that'd be it until the GF6C's. Leaves us more room for steam and Diesels
Grade crossings are used on electrified railroads. AFAIK Sweden have lot's of them. What are the problem? The catenary are at least 4,5 meters about ground and the legal max for a lorry is 4 meters.DanMacK wrote:Well, no long-distance electric freight, and the Tumbler Ridge branch was just for coal. For the record, the GF6C Electrics have been mothballed for years. The smaller lines around Southern Ontario had a few electric locos for freight, but mostly we used diesels. I'd like to see electric on the Windsor =>Quebec City corridor, but I don't see it happening =>too many grade crossings.
I should have been a bit clearer. There are too many grade crossings for any form of high-speed rail, be it electrified or not. Basically, here we have idiots who drive AROUND the gates. I'm not sure how it is across the pond in Sweden, perhaps your drivers are more intelligent than some of ours. The situation is actually A LOT like TTD. Vehicles will get hit by trains, and with the number of crossings we have, that chance goes up. Couple that with the number of people who can't wait for a train and drive around grade crossings, plus the damage caused when a train hits a car doing 150+MPH, you can understand why a massive grade separation is needes for us to get high-speed rail.Bjarni wrote:Grade crossings are used on electrified railroads. AFAIK Sweden have lot's of them. What are the problem? The catenary are at least 4,5 meters about ground and the legal max for a lorry is 4 meters.DanMacK wrote:Well, no long-distance electric freight, and the Tumbler Ridge branch was just for coal. For the record, the GF6C Electrics have been mothballed for years. The smaller lines around Southern Ontario had a few electric locos for freight, but mostly we used diesels. I'd like to see electric on the Windsor =>Quebec City corridor, but I don't see it happening =>too many grade crossings.
Sounds like a good opportunity for a Darwin Award.
Not to mention a dew years ago, a driver hit the last car in a train.
Danish rules says max 140 km/h at any crossing. There is no point in using a bullettrain, if it can't go faster than that. However you didn't say it was a bullettrain you were thinking of