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Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 26 Jun 2012 17:04
by charityalbumman
Hi all,

I have installed openTTD without issues. Installed a selection of newgrf settings (see image below for all these). I built a scenario map and loaded and have been playing for a while now but one issue I have only just noticed is that I cannot build airports yet but am sure I should be able to.

For information I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit. The game runs in administrator mode. Have never had any issues other than this.

Thanks for any help with this as would love to be able to use aircraft :D

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Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 26 Jun 2012 17:10
by Supercheese
I think the world airliners set disables the default aircraft, and the first airliners in the set are not available until later.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 26 Jun 2012 22:10
by charityalbumman
Supercheese wrote:I think the world airliners set disables the default aircraft, and the first airliners in the set are not available until later.
Thanks, what year can I expect to be able to build airports?

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 26 Jun 2012 22:16
by Eddi
i think somewhere in the 1970s the first aircraft in the set appear.

this is because it focuses mainly on aircraft that are currently in use by any airline, not on historic aircraft.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 28 Jun 2012 16:39
by charityalbumman
Eddi wrote:i think somewhere in the 1970s the first aircraft in the set appear.

this is because it focuses mainly on aircraft that are currently in use by any airline, not on historic aircraft.
Checked and it's 1967 so it is working. Thanks for the help =)

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 29 Jun 2012 06:50
by Lukenwolf
If you want aircraft in that time line, I'd suggest Pikka's av8 GRF, which has aircraft as early as 1930.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 29 Jun 2012 07:00
by PikkaBird
Lukenwolf wrote:If you want aircraft in that time line, I'd suggest Pikka's av8 GRF, which has aircraft as early as 1930.
As early as 1911, actually. Seven by 1930 (and thirty seven by 1967). :)

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 29 Jun 2012 08:36
by charityalbumman
PikkaBird wrote:
Lukenwolf wrote:If you want aircraft in that time line, I'd suggest Pikka's av8 GRF, which has aircraft as early as 1930.
As early as 1911, actually. Seven by 1930 (and thirty seven by 1967). :)
PikkaBird, can your AV8 aircraft set run along side WAS? Obviously would this override the disabled build airport button ear;y on in a game?

Thanks Pete 8)

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 29 Jun 2012 14:50
by PikkaBird
charityalbumman wrote:PikkaBird, can your AV8 aircraft set run along side WAS? Obviously would this override the disabled build airport button ear;y on in a game?

Thanks Pete 8)
Probably. Of course, the aircraft probably won't match with regards to stats, running costs, etc.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 09:39
by Beardie
Supercheese wrote:I think the world airliners set disables the default aircraft, and the first airliners in the set are not available until later.
Sorry to bring up the old topic but just wanted to point out that now WAS does no longer override the default aircraft within openttd, also not sure if it can run along side AV8 depends on the IDs given to the aircraft i believe?

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 09:43
by planetmaker
Beardie wrote:not sure if it can run along side AV8 depends on the IDs given to the aircraft i believe?
No. The IDs are local to a NewGRF - unless one of the NewGRFs wants to specifically override the other. With WAS and av8 I do not expect that to be the case.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 11:58
by Eddi
planetmaker wrote:
Beardie wrote:not sure if it can run along side AV8 depends on the IDs given to the aircraft i believe?
No. The IDs are local to a NewGRF - unless one of the NewGRFs wants to specifically override the other. With WAS and av8 I do not expect that to be the case.
note that this requires the "Allow multiple NewGRF sets" option to be enabled (it is by default)

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 12:04
by planetmaker
Eddi wrote:
planetmaker wrote:
Beardie wrote:not sure if it can run along side AV8 depends on the IDs given to the aircraft i believe?
No. The IDs are local to a NewGRF - unless one of the NewGRFs wants to specifically override the other. With WAS and av8 I do not expect that to be the case.
note that this requires the "Allow multiple NewGRF sets" option to be enabled (it is by default)
Indeed... a setting which should actually go IMHO. Turning it off usually will only cause tears nowadays ;-)

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 13:05
by Eddi
it's one of those "enable legacy behaviour" settings. i have no idea if there is a sane use-case, but this is probably not the right thread to discuss this.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 15:26
by charityalbumman
ooooooo a new release =D

Didn't realise this till a topic reply email.

Can I ask if the speed stats in the depot list have been updated? I found that on the alpha release they were often wrong :/

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 17:06
by Yexo
Eddi wrote:it's one of those "enable legacy behaviour" settings. i have no idea if there is a sane use-case, but this is probably not the right thread to discuss this.
Existing savegames where from before the features was introduced.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 21:24
by Beardie
charityalbumman wrote:ooooooo a new release =D

Didn't realise this till a topic reply email.

Can I ask if the speed stats in the depot list have been updated? I found that on the alpha release they were often wrong :/
It has all speeds and running costs and purchases costs in the purchase list are correct. if you click the banner in my signature and then click the giant image in the main WAs thread you can download the latest version with correct stats :)

Also as i said the original openttd planes are no longer overwritten meaning airports are available earlier in the game ready for about 1960s when WAS planes appear :)

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 21:38
by charityalbumman
Are there any helicopters in the WAS Alpha 2? If not I'll make sure to get the AV8 set as well.

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 22:39
by Beardie
charityalbumman wrote:Are there any helicopters in the WAS Alpha 2? If not I'll make sure to get the AV8 set as well.
Emm hot at the moment but it is a future idea we have wrote down lol :)

Re: Cannot build Airports. Totally puzzeled on this.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 22:48
by charityalbumman
ok, thanks. Will install AV8 along side then =)