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Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 06 Feb 2011 23:26
by NekoMaster
In 1.1.0 Beta 5 I can't CTRL-click reverse most non-multiple unit engines like single unit diesels and electrics. I can't find a option to allow this in the advanced settings or in the configuration file.

Any idea how I fix this small problem?

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 06 Feb 2011 23:32
by Rubidium
NekoMaster wrote:Any idea how I fix this small problem?
Get the NewGRF developers to update their NewGRFs to tell OpenTTD that you may reverse the engines/wagons.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 06 Feb 2011 23:34
by planetmaker
Not without some coding work.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 06 Feb 2011 23:44
by NekoMaster
Im talking about ALL SETS, not just the ones that disallow reversing. It worked before with NARS and Tropical Rail Set but now I can't reverse any engine in 1.1.0 (it tells me that I can't reverse direction of vehicle)

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 00:03
by PikkaBird
NekoMaster wrote:Im talking about ALL SETS, not just the ones that disallow reversing.
Disallowing reversing is now the default behaviour, only sets which specifically allow reversing will allow reversing.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 00:45
by NekoMaster
What!? This is stupid, how else am I going to make ABBA sets or have more realistic North American Freight trains (where the direction of the locomotive varies). WHy would something like this be implemented?

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 00:52
by planetmaker
NekoMaster wrote:What!? This is stupid, how else am I going to make ABBA sets or have more realistic North American Freight trains (where the direction of the locomotive varies).
Rubidium wrote:Get the NewGRF developers to update their NewGRFs to tell OpenTTD that you may reverse the engines/wagons.
NekoMaster wrote:WHy would something like this be implemented?
planetmaker wrote:Not without some coding work.
Which gives you the bug report number of the problem the commit fixes.

Oh, and btw: default train engines are still reversible.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 00:58
by NekoMaster
Why didn't you guys just make it so that NewGRF's can state whether or not a vehicle can be flipped so that all other engines can be flipped while the ones that look weird flipped can't be flipped.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 01:34
by PikkaBird
NekoMaster wrote:Why didn't you guys just make it so that NewGRF's can state whether or not a vehicle can be flipped so that all other engines can be flipped while the ones that look weird flipped can't be flipped.
That's exactly what they did. However, no grf currently released states that any vehicles can be flipped.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 03:05
by DanMacK
Pikka, time for an update to the NARS? :P

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 03:07
by PikkaBird
Perhaps. :)

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 04:08
by NekoMaster
What i ment in my above post was, make it so that by defualt, engines can be flipped and smaller engines can be coded to prevent being reversed

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 05:27
by Eddi
But that would be silly.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 08:10
by Emperor Jake
Dont worry... I have a feeling that the 2cc set may possibly be the first to support this "feature" :P (that is, I posted a suggestion to DJNekkid in the devzone)

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 22:32
by NekoMaster
How is it silly that small engines should be the ones that can be made to be non-reversible and make all other engines by default reversible?

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 22:46
by oberhümer
Seconded, most engines in sets are big anyway.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 07 Feb 2011 23:18
by NekoMaster
And theres quite a few good sets that probably wont get updated (at least not for a long time) like the tropical rail set

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 08 Feb 2011 00:39
by Eddi
you can easily provide such an update yourself. you don't even have to modify the grf.

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 08 Feb 2011 01:33
by NekoMaster
Eddi wrote:you can easily provide such an update yourself. you don't even have to modify the grf.
How so? I can't do NFO

Re: Can't CTRL-Click Reverse Engines

Posted: 09 Feb 2011 04:42
by OzTrans
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