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SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 09:37
by AndersI
I've made a small program - SpriteAligner - that reads an NFO file and gives you an easy way of aligning your train sprites. It is of course still Beta, and it is only tested on trains, so far.
Please try it out, and let me know what you think!
SpriteAligner version 1.0 (Windows.exe, but probably works under Wine)
Version
1.01 - Manage relative paths, crude 'tile limits' indicator
1.02 - Preserve eol comments, fix version number, spelling correction
1.03 - *Actually* (?) manage relative paths, fix cache error
1.04 - Yet another try on the relative paths
1.05 - Load PCX with odd byte counts, file name display
1.06 - Confirmation questions to minimize data loss
1.07 - Wallyweb's templates for SG, NG, RV
1.08 - Fixed loading of template image
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 09:52
by trainboy2004
Works great
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 12:17
by DJ Nekkid
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 12:35
by planetmaker
wow, cool
May I make a feature request similar to DJNekkid? It'd be cool, if the tile boundaries would be shown so that I get an idea how it relates to the actual tile.
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 12:39
by AndersI
DJ Nekkid wrote:a "gray" box in the background of the sprite to show where it "should be", along perhaps with a small arrow
planetmaker wrote:It'd be cool, if the tile boundaries would be shown so that I get an idea how it relates to the actual tile.
That's the tricky part. First of all, it depends on the shortening of the sprite, then it depends on what you are going to connect. A steamer + tender might have a very 'strange' alignment, looked at individually.
The program isn't smart at all, it doesn't know anything about the sprite, just that it is a part of an image file, so it's not very easy to 'know how it should be'.
All I know is that a 32px sprite should be centered
Anyone is welcome to draw a template, though, I'll be happy to include it as a background picture. Actual pixel scale, please, the program enlarges the view.
Maybe one should be able to load different template images? I'm not at all sure that what goes for trains is good for cars and trams?
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 13:11
by XeryusTC
Hmm, imo these kind of prgrams are only useful if it knows about the boundingbox that the sprite is put in. I've seen quite some trains being aligned to the rails but not to it's bounding box making it look very odd when you attach wagons etc.
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 15:25
by DaleStan
It doesn't seem to understand real-sprite lines of this format:
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41 sprites/PlaneSetw.pcx 674 8 09 1 1 0 0
42 sprites/PlaneSetw.pcx 690 8 09 1 1 0 0
I think it's a safe assumption that if you strip the first directory of relative paths, then you'll have a path relative to the NFO. Or maybe prepending "../" would be safer/better/easier.
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 16:57
by AndersI
No, for the moment only full absolute paths work because of my Q&D IsRealSprite(...). And if/when I manage relative paths, I don't really understand why they shouldn't relate to the directory where the NFO is found? Is this some grfcodec quirk?
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 17:34
by frosch
AndersI wrote:Is this some grfcodec quirk?
Grfcodec does not interpret relative paths relative to the nfo file, but relative to the directory where grfcodec is run from
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 12 Jun 2009 20:26
by AndersI
DaleStan wrote:It doesn't seem to understand real-sprite lines of this format:
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41 sprites/PlaneSetw.pcx 674 8 09 1 1 0 0
42 sprites/PlaneSetw.pcx 690 8 09 1 1 0 0
I think it's a safe assumption that if you strip the first directory of relative paths, then you'll have a path relative to the NFO. Or maybe prepending "../" would be safer/better/easier.
Should be OK now (ver 1.01, see first post). I followed the first part of your suggestion. Please test/break it
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 12 Jun 2009 23:46
by Ammler
Tried your tool with wine, but wasn't able to see the sprites, how do I need to run it to see the sprites?
Maybe you could make a debug field (which is editable) to see the current location, where the sprites relative to will be.
Greets
Ammler
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 13 Jun 2009 00:51
by DaleStan
First the bug: When modifying the line
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41 sprites/PlaneSetw.pcx 674 8 09 1 1 0 0 // something here
The comment is clobbered, rather than changing the xrel and yrel. If the comment is only "// something", the result is worse; the new xrel and yrel replace '//' and 'something'.
The workaround is obvious: "Don't do that, then."
Incorrect sprite numbers worked just fine.
Then, a couple warts:
- It freezes unpleasantly when loading large (in my case, ~1MB) PCX files, and it apparently reloads the file every time a new sprite is selected.
- The UI is not particularly discoverable. The button that looks to me like a calculator is particularly bad.
- The version number in the About window does not match the version number in the title bar.
- Again in the About window, the correct spelling of "alignment" has only one 'e'.
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 13 Jun 2009 15:24
by AndersI
First post updated with version 1.02.
DaleStan wrote:The comment is clobbered, rather than changing the xrel and yrel
Fixed.
Incorrect sprite numbers worked just fine.
Is this good or bad? I don't actually understand what you mean.
It freezes unpleasantly when loading large (in my case, ~1MB) PCX files, and it apparently reloads the file every time a new sprite is selected.
It is expected to freeze once for each new file, it's caching the image files in memory. This works for me in my testing, where all sprites are in the same file (haven't had the time to test other combinations). I can click and hold down the down-arrow button and see all the trains whirl around on the screen, one after another (I even had to add a little sleep() to be able to see them good). Will try to find a faster PCX loader - the current one was ready and available with no additional work for me.
Feel free to PM me a NFO/PCX combo that reloads the file for each sprite, it's probably a bug in the cache handling...
The UI is not particularly discoverable. The button that looks to me like a calculator is particularly bad.
That's the (non-functional) auto-align button. I've hidden it for the time being.
Edit: At least I thought I had hidden it, but it's still visible - oh well...
The version number in the About window does not match the version number in the title bar.
Again in the About window, the correct spelling of "alignment" has only one 'e'.
Fixed.
Thanks!
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 13 Jun 2009 15:28
by AndersI
Ammler wrote:Tried your tool with wine, but wasn't able to see the sprites, how do I need to run it to see the sprites?
Maybe you could make a debug field (which is editable) to see the current location, where the sprites relative to will be.
It could be the same problem that DaleStan reported with relative path names in the NFO, please test with the new version (1.02). If that's not the case, I don't know, can you PM me a NFO/PCX the gives you problems?
Has anyone else managed to run it with Wine? I don't have a linux computer available, so I can only go on what other people tell me. My BlockCAD program is reported to work on wine, and this program is using graphics in exactly the same way, so I had my hopes up.
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 13 Jun 2009 16:53
by DaleStan
AndersI wrote:DaleStan wrote:Incorrect sprite numbers worked just fine.
Is this good or bad? I don't actually understand what you mean.
Good. I fed it out-of-order and not-even-possibly-valid sprite numbers (specifically, I numbered several consecutive sprites 43, 44, 405, -46, 47) and it didn't choke.
AndersI wrote:DaleStan wrote:It freezes unpleasantly when loading large (in my case, ~1MB) PCX files, and it apparently reloads the file every time a new sprite is selected.
It is expected to freeze once for each new file, it's caching the image files in memory.
Progress bars FTW. Not that they're easy to pull off.
Since it works for you and not for me, I'm guessing that the caching only breaks for relative paths. See attached for a test case; as far as I can tell, it doesn't matter which two sprites are selected; it will always reload the file when the second is selected.
AndersI wrote:Thanks!
No, thank
you. It's so nice to work with programmers who fix bugs promptly and without objecting that I'm doing something stupid.
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 13 Jun 2009 17:17
by Ammler
Seems to work well with a fresh decoded grf, but doesn't work with sources like
01wagons.pnfo.
But then, you have very huge pcx files, which makes it very slow as it seems to reload everytime, as dalestan mentioned.
(Decoding with -h, seems not working, either.)
Greets
Ammler
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 13 Jun 2009 21:04
by AndersI
New version (1.03) in first post.
DaleStan: I've fixed the cache error. Stupid me was storing the relative name in the cache, but looking for the full name...
Ammler: I hope I've fixed that problem now, but I'm not sure. Where in the file tree is your .pnfo file stored (compared to the image files)?
Also, the .pnfo file extension, is that something 'universal' or is it only you? I could add that extension to the list, to save you some clicks. Any other often used extensions?
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 13 Jun 2009 22:43
by Ammler
AndersI wrote:New version (1.03) in first post.
fast!
Ammler: I hope I've fixed that problem now, but I'm not sure. Where in the file tree is your .pnfo file stored (compared to the image files)?
Also, the .pnfo file extension, is that something 'universal' or is it only you? I could add that extension to the list, to save you some clicks. Any other often used extensions?
Well, it is from the existing Makefile templates of Aegir or whoever, we have hnfo and pnfo, hnfor needs to be merged, pnfo go thought preprocessor or such alike. As you can chose All files, that isn't very important.
But I guess, the more important fact is that the nfo files can be on very different locations, maybe it would be helpful to have the possibilty to change your path? I.e. if you click on the link you see where it is, and you can also see, where the pcx is saved.
Something else, (not essential either) the pcx looks like you assume DOS? (pinky)
Greets
Ammler
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 14 Jun 2009 03:34
by DaleStan
My windows-paletted PCX files work just fine; I'd upload a test case.
Re: SpriteAligner - Tool for aligning sprites directly in NFO
Posted: 14 Jun 2009 09:50
by Bilbo
Looks nice.
Is there planned support for aligning also other graphics? Like houses, signals, bridges... - you'll just need different "synchronization" background.
