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hey, a league with ttdpath?

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 00:35
by Patatas Fritas cn Chorizo
I'm get bored with play alone... the 2players mode doesn't work so well, so... why don't someone make a good scenario and we play it with the same .cfg until 2070? The winner will win our respect and admiration :wink:

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 00:49
by Patatas Fritas cn Chorizo
well... a good scenario, please... a difficult one!! with more mountains and lakes... not one of those two-super-big-cities-and-millions-of-farms-or-coal-mines-put-all-together-flat-land... :wink:

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 01:00
by Patatas Fritas cn Chorizo
we can start making a list with the people who want join... so, well, I think I'm the first...

(come on, guys, let's see who is the better, the king of TTD!!! :D )

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 01:01
by Lilman424
I guess I'm in, but you CAN edit your posts....

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 01:19
by Patatas Fritas cn Chorizo
oopppsss!! I just see the icon right now!! :lol: thanx!!

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 02:53
by luzi82
well... the winner should get the highest score in the game, isn't it?

um...
I think the game should be hard to make money in the early stage.
( because when we get the money, we can do everything we want. )
all related industry should have a big distance between them.
and.... there should have many many small cities!!!
( because cities can make rail construction difficult )

try to make the map hard to make route.
more hill... and make it nearly impossible to have flat land to make airport.

( the other idea is.... no industry!!! everyone should try to transport passenger to make $ )

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 06:49
by Emeric Pro
That's a good idea, I'm in too

But maybe we should wait for the first beta version before starting?

[Edit]

I think the map should have two separate islands with enough water between to force us using planes & boats (if forbidding "longbridges" switch)

Also sign cheats should be authorized (but cost) because changing tracks is so painful if not.
But people will have to be honest enough not to use cht: money, cht:year, cht:resetstation, and all those cheats that help a lot


[edit 2]
actually i just created a quuick map.
Here is a zip with the map, a cfg and list of new grf used.
What do you think?
(I made the map in half an hour, so it has few industries, but i think it's more challenging.)

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 16:37
by Patatas Fritas cn Chorizo
Luzi82: "well... the winner should get the highest score in the game, isn't it?"

yea, but maybe it will be funny make special prices!! like the most beautiful train-web, the most friendly (who is awesome for all cities)... or the best AI-likely-train-web!!! :wink: Well, we have time to talk about this... u know, all ideas are wellcome!!!

Emeric Pro: "But people will have to be honest enough not to use cht:"

yea, we can make some list of rules, like don't use the scenario-editor and things like this... but, u know, if I use the scenario-editor I'll make sure of don't leave evidences!!! :D It's easy to see if there is a new city, but if u put a new industry or something there are no way to know anything... so, like u say, people will have to be honest...

I like your scenario! there are no easy-to-connect coal mines and is so mountainous... well, let's see what the people say!!

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 17:46
by Emeric Pro
Thanks...
I think - if people play "league" - we could play a different scenario every week (or 10 days?)
What about the cfg?
if everyone agrees on the rules we could start tomorrow.

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 18:28
by Zooz
Great idea. Im not good at mountainous maps, but i like it anyway.

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 18:39
by BobXP
Patatas Fritas cn Chorizo wrote:Emeric Pro: "But people will have to be honest enough not to use cht:"

yea, we can make some list of rules, like don't use the scenario-editor and things like this... but, u know, if I use the scenario-editor I'll make sure of don't leave evidences!!! :D It's easy to see if there is a new city, but if u put a new industry or something there are no way to know anything... so, like u say, people will have to be honest...
Ehem, I could make a very small app that disabled TTDPatches Sign cheats. But then ppl would have to be honest to use the app... hey... why not just make it so that the scenario only works with the app? That's a good idea actually, whoever has the map send it to me (pm or email) and I'll make an app which can enable/disable any of TTDPatches options ;)

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 18:47
by Emeric Pro
BobXP wrote:whoever has the map send it to me (pm or email) and I'll make an app which can enable/disable any of TTDPatches options ;)
actually i posted it upper on that page. :)

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 18:51
by BobXP
Well then anyone can download and play the map without the app, so that won't work will it. But if you want it that way, then fine...

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 18:54
by Emeric Pro
:oops: I had not thought of that when doing it
but it is only a test, I dunno which switches to enable etc.

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 18:54
by luzi82
I think, if we enable the cheating, there will exist many gray area...
Althrough cheating is the best method to perform rail rebuilding, but it use bugs in TTD system, and may not test our real ability...
( well, if you fully make use of the bug, no cheating is needed at all )

it may be nice to make a patch only for the game, but it takes time.
just use a standard cfg file with disable cheating will be easy solution.

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 19:06
by Emeric Pro
Actually 130 years of game is enough to reduce the difference between cheaters and non-cheaters.
So i'm gonna make a new topic, with first post showing results of the league. And anyway even if we make a soft to forbid cheating, there will always be ways to cheat... I don't see the users of these forums as cheaters, everyone loves too much ttdx to do so. It will be OK anyway

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 19:15
by SHADOW-XIII
well if anyone want he can create a website with PHP to store records, etc ... there also can start chellenges ... ... say a month to sending records ...

if there won't be anyone to create a page then I can

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 19:20
by Emeric Pro
SHADOW-XIII wrote:well if anyone want he can create a website with PHP to store records, etc ... there also can start chellenges ... ... say a month to sending records ...

if there won't be anyone to create a page then I can
That would be kewl... But I'm not skilled enough for this. Before it's done we could begin on the forums.

Also, is it possible to store difficulty settings with the scenario (I know scenarios keep options like currency etc... but it seems that it doesn't keep difficulty serttings)?
I think playing with "hard" settings but without AI is good. AI is so bad.

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 19:23
by BobXP
SHADOW-XIII wrote:well if anyone want he can create a website with PHP to store records, etc ... there also can start chellenges ... ... say a month to sending records ...

if there won't be anyone to create a page then I can
What about JavaScript?

Posted: 13 Jul 2003 19:23
by SHADOW-XIII
well AI is bad option but then you will have to change it to Random ... I'd like to keep playing HARD so a bit AI will not harm you if you destroy them or buy