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[WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 01:25
by demontrain
An adaption of the wheat farm to produce sugar instead of grain. It uses the same cargo id # as grain so there would be no need to modify and vechicles (all grain hoppers should work fine) I adapted the winery to accept the sugar and while also to accepting grapes and grain.
I've added the rar file if anyone wants it. NO new sprites or anything special just as advertised a adaption of wheat farms and winery to give another cargo type. 2 wineries are enclosed both along with 3 city buildings that produce sugar. The produce dat is enclosed as I'm working on a variation of sugar farm that will also produce produce when supplied with fertilizer.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 01:39
by Twiggy
good to see this one happening mate. Do you want me to beta test it for you? I'm in the process of getting some narrow gauge suger cane trains up and running. It's only early days for those tho, works got the better of me timewise, so it may be a long process.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 02:29
by Hammo
I actually want to make a whole new industry with new sprites and such for this. I finished my exams a couple of days ago, so I've got a month off now
I'll see how I go, It'll almost certainly be a lot of work... if I fail miserably, this one will do

Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 04:19
by Plastikman
Hammo wrote:I actually want to make a whole new industry with new sprites and such for this. I finished my exams a couple of days ago, so I've got a month off now
I'll see how I go, It'll almost certainly be a lot of work... if I fail miserably, this one will do

I was actually ahead of you on this hammo, but it looks like i can toss mine out.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 05:31
by Twiggy
Hammo wrote:I actually want to make a whole new industry with new sprites and such for this. I finished my exams a couple of days ago, so I've got a month off now
I'll see how I go, It'll almost certainly be a lot of work... if I fail miserably, this one will do

Do you wanna work in together on this one Hammo, I'll do the rolling stock and you can do the industry.
@ Plastik: Don't chuck it... Just coz...
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 12:18
by demontrain
wadeo1984 wrote:Hammo wrote:I actually want to make a whole new industry with new sprites and such for this. I finished my exams a couple of days ago, so I've got a month off now
I'll see how I go, It'll almost certainly be a lot of work... if I fail miserably, this one will do

Do you wanna work in together on this one Hammo, I'll do the rolling stock and you can do the industry.
@ Plastik: Don't chuck it... Just coz...
Feel free to continue your efforts on your version. I only released mine since I've had it long enough and have gotten requests to release some of the various industries I've adapted even tho' they don't have new sprites. I've tried but the graphics I've made are not up to the HQ that have been released by others and no need to hear the comments on quality.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 13:39
by pe13
Is it replacing the original dats?
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 15:05
by demontrain
pe13 wrote:Is it replacing the original dats?
The dats released released in the sugar farm mod (see 1st post) do NOT replace any dats originally supplied with locomotion. Sugar is hauled in a grain type hopper so I used the same id number. This allows the default hoppers and all the mod hoppers that haul grain to also haul sugar and not replace anything. The dats have new names and will appear in industry tab and city building tabs therefor no replacements are done.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 22:57
by athanasios
Sugar Farm? This is rather odd. Where? On planet Mars or in Toyland of TTD?
I don't know why we should introduce such foolish terms in Locomotion as "Sugar Farm" or "Sugar Plantation".
"Sugar Beets" or "Sugar Cane" Farm or Plantation and "Sugar Factory" are valid, otherwise someone please lock this thread.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 23:01
by Kevo00
athanasios wrote:Sugar Farm? This is rather odd. Where? On planet Mars or in Toyland of TTD?
I don't know why we should introduce such foolish terms in Locomotion as "Sugar Farm" or "Sugar Plantation".
"Sugar Beets" or "Sugar Cane" Farm or Plantation and "Sugar Factory" are valid, otherwise someone please lock this thread.
What, just because you are a pedant?
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 23 Jun 2008 23:57
by Hammo
athanasios wrote:Sugar Farm? This is rather odd. Where? On planet Mars or in Toyland of TTD?
I don't know why we should introduce such foolish terms in Locomotion as "Sugar Farm" or "Sugar Plantation".
"Sugar Beets" or "Sugar Cane" Farm or Plantation and "Sugar Factory" are valid, otherwise someone please lock this thread.
I was planning to make mine a sugar cane plantation... this project seems to have extended from talk in the cityrail thread about a QLD set and sugar cane. Queensland is covered with sugar cane, and we though that it would be good if we could try and make a sugar industry, since it's so prevalent there. Wadeo is making some narrow gauge locos to go with it, since the whole state of Queensland runs on narrow gauge.
@wadeo: sounds great. I'll start work in a day or two when I get some time free.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 24 Jun 2008 11:34
by demontrain
athanasios wrote:Sugar Farm? This is rather odd. Where? On planet Mars or in Toyland of TTD?
I don't know why we should introduce such foolish terms in Locomotion as "Sugar Farm" or "Sugar Plantation".
"Sugar Beets" or "Sugar Cane" Farm or Plantation and "Sugar Factory" are valid, otherwise someone please lock this thread.
I presume I stepped on your toes somewhere or another. I am sorry for offending you somehow. Please by all means give me the proper name for the industry that would suit everyone. I am new to the making of mods and thought that makeing the industry somewhat generic in name would leave it's usage up to the end user. Sugar is produced in many ways, from sugar cane and sugar beets to name the most popular,so I concede to your terms.
I really don't see the need to lock this topic but if that is your wish and the powers that be do obey your wishes that's fine. Constructive criticism like yours is so nice to see.

Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 24 Jun 2008 14:15
by robo
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 25 Jun 2008 15:49
by Plastikman
thats a nice link robo. that steamer is in great condition and in regular service. compare that to this poor thing
http://touregypt.net/teblog/luxornews/?p=482 that thing look like Godzillia chewed it up and spat it out.
demontrain wrote:An adaption of the wheat farm to produce sugar instead of grain. It uses the same cargo id # as grain so there would be no need to modify and vehicles (all grain hoppers should work fine) I adapted the winery to accept the sugar and while also to accepting grapes and grain.
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I think the failed logic is that the farm itself should not make sugar, It should make cane. That is then transported to a Sugar Refinery.
I am pretty sure that is what the Aussie guy are asking for since that is what they would see rolling b on some narrow gauge tracks.
maybe you can do something like this?

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That is the one i chucked, it had narrow gauge trains also.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 25 Jun 2008 18:41
by demontrain
That's what I had in mind but alas my working with graphics is extremely lacking, especially when it comes to making vehicles. I know there's a special type car that hauls raw sugar cane and I even tried to make one (total failure). I therefor opted to have the farm also process the sugar cane into sugar which would need to still be hauled to a processing plant.
It's my 1st mod that I released and I did a few shortcuts to avoid the copyright issues with MSTS people and with existing vehicles made by you and others. If I get better at vehicle making I can change the industry or perhaps someone would make the railcars. I have a few graphics for the sugar cane farm, plantation or whatever name people want to call it, I've got a few blotches in it that I need to clean up, same goes for a processing plant.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 26 Jun 2008 01:08
by athanasios
demontrain wrote:I really don't see the need to lock this topic but if that is your wish and the powers that be do obey your wishes that's fine. Constructive criticism like yours is so nice to see.

No need to lock it. I just wanted to put emphasis on my sayings and seems that my post served its purpose.
Consider it a friendly prod!

Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 26 Jun 2008 07:53
by Hammo
Plastikman wrote:That is the one i chucked, it had narrow gauge trains also.

you're chucking that? If you've done some work, then surely let us see. If it's that complete, I may not need to do as much (if you are willing or able to share it, that is).
And yes, the idea of cane going to a refinery to make food is what I was planning.
Had you made a proper sugar cane plantation too? That was going to be my focus, so if you have indeed made one, I'd love to see how it turned out.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 26 Jun 2008 23:06
by demontrain
Please continue your work Plastikman. I only released my version to see if it would fill the void. No problems here if outclassed by yours.
Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 02 Jul 2008 08:44
by robo
I remember the game tropico had some nice 8-/16bit-graphics of sugarcane farms and a rum distillery.
After playing the scenario "lost worlds", which is already a lot of fun I thought about making some more tropical scenary some time ago (vegetation, industries and perhaps buildings) but then I discovered it's too much work.

Re: [WIP] Sugar farm
Posted: 02 Jul 2008 10:29
by Kevo00
I know its totally O/T, but Tropico was a great game, should have been way more popular than it was. I loved trying to provoke the US.