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North Wales Project (CODERS AND ARTISTS WANTED)
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 20:57
by welshdragon
hello, and welcome to the thread for the North Wales Project, this has been started by myself, as i will be leaving the region shortly, a region which i grew up in, and travelled around.
Tracking Table
underlined items i'm working on, items in italics are new
Stock
- Class 175: drawing and coding
Great Orme Tramway Trams: Drawing and Coding
Colwyn Bay & Llandudno Electric Railway Trams: Drawing and Coding
Snowdon Mountain Railway stock: Drawing (Completed (Page 4)) and coding
Bridges
- Bridge #1: Britannia Tubular Bridge: Drawing and Coding
Bridge #2: Menai Suspension Road Bridge: Drawing and Coding
Bridge #3: Flintshire Road Bridge Drawing and Coding
Bridge #4: Runcorn Rail Bridge Drawing and Coding
Buildings
- Caernarfon Castle drawing and coding
Conwy Castle drawing and coding
Dolweddylen Castle drawing and coding
Miscellaneous
- Terrain drawing (complete)
Here is the terrain file and NEWGRF, plus a 'clean' version so you can use it with anything
- newgrfw.cfg
- hope this is ok
- (615 Bytes) Downloaded 87 times
Edit: Clean version (no extra grf's used, TTDPatch Default GRF's)
- TRT00.SV0
- 'Clean' Version
- (163.45 KiB) Downloaded 104 times
Feel free to make any suggestions, post any GRF's, and start coding for the project.
You can either post, pm, email or MSN me
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 21:03
by Purno
So ehm... you need code and sprites, which one of the two are you taking care of?
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 21:15
by Redirect Left
Sounds like an ellaborate request thread to me..
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 21:24
by welshdragon
Jolteon: It's not that elaborate, it's just some new things need making and coding
Purno:

Your designs are ace. I'll coordinate the 'project', makng sure that everything runs 'smoothly'.
Any Further queries, please do not hesitate to ask
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 23:08
by Ameecher
No offence but this sounds far too much like a dictatorship for anyone to become involved. You have to be prepared to do your bit rather than just tell other people what to do, otherwise you'll end up with no one "on your side".
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 23:39
by welshdragon
Ok, so, everybody's getting the wrong end of the stick, I'm designing and fabricating the map, but there are some things (bridges and stock) that i can't do myself, and i'd likw some help from people, who know what they are doing.
See the tracking table
here
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 23:50
by Ameecher
I still don't think you understand. People have to have some motivation to do this and also the set needs to be usable with more than one scenario, I doubt many people would want to create a set that only really fits with one scenario.
There also has to be the enthusiasm from the people that give up their time to do the work, everyone here does the stuff they do because they enjoy it. If they don't enjoy it they don't do it, they certainly don't need any money to persuade them. So instead of paying for their services how about giving a donation to the forums that is very generously hosting your thread?
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 07 Aug 2007 23:59
by welshdragon
Ameecher, it is very hard for me to do this, i'm not very good at drawing, or i would have done that. You have to understand, that i have a visual impairment, which means that being on the computers fun, as my eyes can focus on one thing, so that's my motivation, and playing the westcontry 90201 map is good, but... Oh, i'm making myself upset, goodnight.

Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 08 Aug 2007 08:25
by Purno
TycoonMarkJ wrote:I'll coordinate the 'project', makng sure that everything runs 'smoothly'.
Two reactions on this;
1.
You can either post, pm, email or MSN me, up until the end of September, from then on, god only knows whether i'll be contactable.
How can you make sure everything runs 'smoothly' when you seem to expect to be hardly contactable from the end of September?
2.
If you're going to coordinate things, what about starting with a tracking table? And if you want people to work with you, you'll have to listen to their opinions too. That means, that even when you finished your tracking table, things might need to be removed or added. That's just how teams work.
An apology
Posted: 08 Aug 2007 11:09
by welshdragon

Last night, i was getting desperate, so i'm sorry, i'll behave from now on

Ok, so,

i will now be contactable, as i'm going to sit in a library and check on progress (i work in them, all of them! (in the Harrogate area))

A tracking table

ok, i know roughly what one of those is, so here it is...
Landscaping
Castles
Bridges
Class 175 coding
Also, i will donate money to the forums, as a thank you for everybody's help...
Any further queries, please don't hesitate to ask,
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 08 Aug 2007 11:17
by Purno
TycoonMarkJ wrote:Class 175 coding
This comes closest to a Tracking Table item. Please check other project's Tracking Table to see what a Tracking Table actually is.

TRACKING TABLE BETA
Posted: 08 Aug 2007 11:24
by welshdragon
Items in bold i'm working on, items in italics are new
Class 175 coding
Bridge drawing and coding
Bridge #1 Britannia Tubular Bridge: Drawing and Coding
Bridge #2 Menai Suspension Road Bridge: Drawing and Coding
Bridge #3 Flintshire Road Bridge Drawing and Coding
Bridge #4 Runcorn Rail Bridge Drawing and Coding
Great Orme Tramway Trams: Drawing and Coding
Colwyn Bay & Llandudno Electric Railway Trams: Drawing and Coding
Terrain drawing
Caernarfon Castle drawing and coding
Conwy Castle drAaeing and coding
Dolweddylen Castle drawing and coding
What other sets could this work with?
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 08 Aug 2007 11:45
by wallyweb
TycoonMarkJ wrote:Ok, so, i will now be contactable, as i'm going to sit in a library and check on progress (i work in them, all of them! (in the Harrogate area))
That is cool. You'll be in the right place should you need to do some research.

I hope your libraries allow logging onto forums. The ones in my town frown upon it.
TycoonMarkJ wrote:A tracking table? ok, i know roughly what one of those is, ...
It looks to me that you are proposing to manage this set and that is ok. krtaylor does this for several sets. Here is the link to the tracking tables that he manages
http://www.as-st.com/ttd
TycoonMarkJ wrote:... so here it is...
Landscaping
Castles
Bridges
Class 175 coding
You'll be wanting to expand on these of course.
TycoonMarkJ wrote:Also, i will donate money to the forums, as a thank you for everybody's help...
orudge will love you for that.
TycoonMarkJ wrote:Last night, i was getting desperate, so i'm sorry, i'll behave from now on

No need for desperation ... a polite question around here usually gets answers, sometimes lots of them, occasionally too many.
A couple of thoughts ... If you be student or worker, keep in mind that studies and work take precedence. We'll always be here as a place to return to. Don't expect results overnight. Most of the sets in these forums are far from done even though quite playable. Like good food, a good set takes time to prepare. I'm looking forward to some of those castles and bridges. Should be fun.
EDIT: A bit of kind advice ... avoid posting in red as much as possible. Apparently there are concerns about how it renders on some systems and orudge frowns upon it.

Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 08 Aug 2007 12:47
by welshdragon
Changes have been made to the tracking table, see above
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 08 Aug 2007 13:22
by welshdragon
Tram

Conwy bridges

Britannia bridge (old)

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Menai Bridge

Caernarfon Castle

Re: TRACKING TABLE BETA
Posted: 09 Aug 2007 15:00
by orudge
TycoonMarkJ wrote:Bridge #1 Britannia Tubular Bridge: Drawing and Coding
Bridge #2 Menai Suspension Road Bridge: Drawing and Coding
While I'm not sure about who'll be drawing and coding all this, a little suggestion from me (seeing as I'm in Flintshire for the summer) - how about the Flintshire bridge?
link
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 09 Aug 2007 16:43
by welshdragon
It's added - as well as the bridges at Runcorn - What a fantastic site you found!
btw Owen: will a postal order do for donations?
Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 09 Aug 2007 16:48
by Tom0004
TycoonMarkJ wrote:It's added - if you can get a picture?
why not click the link to get one ?

Re: North Wales Project
Posted: 09 Aug 2007 16:52
by welshdragon
it's ok, i spotted the link!
DEM Data
Posted: 10 Aug 2007 11:28
by welshdragon
I know that, in some games, you can use DEM data to create maps, can this be done in TTD? if not, is it something that could be developed?