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Can't find newgrf directory or newgrf.cfg file, how to make

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 05:08
by Ransom
I'm new to this whole thing, I'm trying to install the US train set/stations/industries.....problem is, I dont see a newgrf directory OR a newgrfw.cfg file in my TTD directory. How am I supposed to add a line of text commands to a file that doesn't exist? and if Im suppose to create it, how do I make a .cfg file? I'm running 2.5 beta 9

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 05:15
by WWTBAM
To create it, just create a newgrf.txt and change its extension to .cfg or if you have hide known extensions off then just save it as newgrf.cfg.

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 14:42
by Ransom
robotboy wrote:To create it, just create a newgrf.txt and change its extension to .cfg or if you have hide known extensions off then just save it as newgrf.cfg.
maybe this whole thing ain't for me. How do you save it as a .cfg file? Only option I have is .txt

And how come I don't have any of the files that these set instructions say should already be there? Frustrating? yeah, to say the least.

Here are the files in my TTDX folder, I had to delete something called TTDLOADW.OVL when installing the 2.5 beta 9 patch.

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Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 14:49
by Comeng 523M
Maybe you should try a configuration program. TTDXC is my favorite personally, though many write the command file themselves.

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 14:59
by wallyweb
Ransom wrote:How do you save it as a .cfg file? Only option I have is .txt
You should have another option for "all". Select that, then on the file name line enter newgrfw.cfg

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 15:13
by Csaboka
You can also force the .cfg extension by using quotes. In the Save dialog of Notepad, enter "newgrfw.cfg" (in qoutes) to the file name box, then click on Save. This way, it won't append a .txt extension to the filename.

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 15:41
by Ransom
what I ended up doing was just copying the ttdpatch.cfg file, renaming it, and deleting all its contents, lol.

But that still didn't work. I created the newgrf directory, put all the new grf's in there, and even put the right command lines in the newgrfw.cfg file. I was able to see the options for the new grf's in game under the options menu, however no visual changes ever took place, and the stations never loaded any cargo now. So I totally deleted everything I had related to TTD and I'm going to start from scratch again. Jesus this is confusing.

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 01 Aug 2007 23:25
by Lakie
Ransom wrote:what I ended up doing was just copying the ttdpatch.cfg file, renaming it, and deleting all its contents, lol.

But that still didn't work. I created the newgrf directory, put all the new grf's in there, and even put the right command lines in the newgrfw.cfg file. I was able to see the options for the new grf's in game under the options menu, however no visual changes ever took place, and the stations never loaded any cargo now. So I totally deleted everything I had related to TTD and I'm going to start from scratch again. Jesus this is confusing.
Ok, ttdpatch.cfg should be auto generated by TTDpatch on startup if it doesn't exist in the TTD directory, any changes here will have an immediate effect on your saved games.
Please note that newgrfw.cfg will not immediately effect saved games (unless the grf has been updated or removed since it), you will need to go to the spanner and select "New Graphic Status", and change the active grf files there for that saved game.

Please also note that if you have 'selectgoods' on you will need a train with a wagon of the cargo type you want to take from that station, (assuming it can get it from an industry or town), Ie. no cargo will appear until a train of cargo x has visited it.

Hope that helps,
~ Lakie

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 01:17
by Ransom
Lakie wrote:
Ransom wrote:what I ended up doing was just copying the ttdpatch.cfg file, renaming it, and deleting all its contents, lol.

But that still didn't work. I created the newgrf directory, put all the new grf's in there, and even put the right command lines in the newgrfw.cfg file. I was able to see the options for the new grf's in game under the options menu, however no visual changes ever took place, and the stations never loaded any cargo now. So I totally deleted everything I had related to TTD and I'm going to start from scratch again. Jesus this is confusing.
Ok, ttdpatch.cfg should be auto generated by TTDpatch on startup if it doesn't exist in the TTD directory, any changes here will have an immediate effect on your saved games.
Please note that newgrfw.cfg will not immediately effect saved games (unless the grf has been updated or removed since it), you will need to go to the spanner and select "New Graphic Status", and change the active grf files there for that saved game.

Please also note that if you have 'selectgoods' on you will need a train with a wagon of the cargo type you want to take from that station, (assuming it can get it from an industry or town), Ie. no cargo will appear until a train of cargo x has visited it.

Hope that helps,
~ Lakie
Ok thanks. ttdpatch.cfg is there, so thats not a problem. I was just confused that all these graphics sets were saying to modify newgrfw.cfg and it wasn't there to begin with, same with the newgrf directory.

So the cargo load at the station is actually a feature? Im guessig it lets you place the stations and build track without rushing and having cargo pileup waiting while your building, correct? Didn't think about that, thanks for the clarification.

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 01:20
by DaleStan
Programming in Notepad!? I suppose that's doable, but I'd prefer to have a more powerful undo. It's just fine for editing config files, though.
Ransom wrote:So the cargo load at the station is actually a feature?
Only if that switch is on. If selectgoods is off, and cargo does not begin arriving basically immediately, then it's a bug.

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 01:25
by Ransom
DaleStan wrote:Programming in Notepad!? I suppose that's doable, but I'd prefer to have a more powerful undo. It's just fine for editing config files, though.
Ransom wrote:So the cargo load at the station is actually a feature?
Only if that switch is on. If selectgoods is off, and cargo does not begin arriving basically immediately, then it's a bug.
ok thanks. Where do I find if its on/off? In the ttdpatch.cfg?

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 01:26
by DaleStan
Yes.

Re: Either I'm stupid...or....

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 01:39
by wallyweb
Ransom wrote:ok thanks. Where do I find if its on/off? In the ttdpatch.cfg?
Hi Ransom.
Where this appears to be your first experience with ttdpatch, I highly recommend going through ttdpatch.cfg line by line. It controls virtually everything that the patch does. There are features you may want and others that you don't want. That's the place to turn them on and off. While browsing the cfg file, refer to the manual often. It goes into more detail about what the switches do. The link to the manual is in the left column on this page:

http://www.ttdpatch.net/

Enjoy your trip into virtual transportation reality. :wink:

Re: Can't find newgrf directory or newgrf.cfg file, how to make

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 14:47
by Ransom
Guys, I just wanted to say that I finally got it :lol: I got home from work, sat down, took my time, read through the installation stickies STEP BY STEP, and found what was wrong. I never installed the 'all new graphics' from TTDPatch.net, thats why there was no newgrf directory or .cfg file. But, I got it now, and have a couple sets going on (NARS, US stations & Industries stations, and Total Town Replacement).

Thanks for all your help! Consider this topic done :D