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Hello to everybody,

i've painted some graphics for OpenTTD. This are my first graphics for OpenTTD and may there some problems with palettes etc. included.
My first vehicle is a saxonian passenger car from 1916.

DrMilzbrand

Not bad for a start!

But a little more detail would be nice.

Look for Purno's drawing tutorials for some hints and tips.

Keep up the good work!

Thank you for your fast answer,

I found a picture of a passenger car, that is very similar to the C2 Sa 16.



I think, I will paint some more better vehicles soon. For example the German Class. 156/252 and some passengercars from the DR (GDR).

Reguards from Dresden

As these coaches are based on DB Set vehicles, your "advice"

Mr. X wrote:But a little more detail would be nice.
Look for Purno's drawing tutorials for some hints and tips.

doesn´t fit.

regards
Michael

The diagonals look a bit long to me, see picture below where I've combined your wagon with a part of the SpriteSizes image. The verticals look a bit long too...

AndersI wrote:see picture below [...]

Those saxon coaches are two-axle and should be significantly shorter than a modern UIC 4-axle coach.

regards
Michael

AndersI wrote:The diagonals look a bit long to me

His diagonals are, technically, correct; it's TTD's screwy perspective that's wrong and means wagons have to be drawn shorter in the diagonal direction.

There's nothing 'screwy' about isometric projections, it's just that they don't look like real life...

> [...] screwy perspective [...]

Well, the original (DBXL) does conform to TTD standards, Milzbrand´s diagonal view being deliberately elongated. In addition, he accidentally copied part of the track to his car.

regards
Michael

Hello to all,

thanks for your good advises.
I think, it takes some time to learn it right.

In the CSD-Set, there are some longer vehicles, with a longer total length than the "old" Transport-Tycoon standard-length allowed. I don't know, how it works, but if I buy three czech EuroCity-coaches, they have a size of about 3 elements. In Transport-Tycoon three coaches means 1 an a half element. A wonderfull view, if an original-sized EuroCity is about to pass through the station in OpenTTD! By chance, I would guess, that it works with transparent "phantom" vehicles, that acheave the right length?
Like the coalwaggon of steam-locomotives, that are coupled automatic behind the locomotive.

May it would be better to draw the vehicles longer than the old Transport-Tycoon standard vehicles?

Well, the original (DBXL) does conform to TTD standards, Milzbrand´s diagonal view being deliberately elongated. In addition, he accidentally copied part of the track to his car.

Yes, the vehicle was painted (sideview) by me alone. For the other sides i take the scatch of the DBSet as a backround, but modified. My intention was not to present this vehicle as my new vehicle, but to get some advises to make it in a better way.

With the help of Purno's Tutorial I've painted now the following vehicle.
A scatch of a german 2-axle Tanker of the DR. I took only colors of the OpenTTD-palettes. May it could be a little bit resized.

Reguards from Dresden
DrMilzbrand

AndersI wrote:There's nothing 'screwy' about isometric projections, it's just that they don't look like real life...

I didn't say there was anything 'screwy' about isometric projections. I said there was something 'screwy' about vehicle lengths in TTDP, which there is.

(namely, that the diagonal views are 50% of the apparent horizontal length of the horizontal views, when they should be approximately 70%).

DrMilzbrand wrote:This are my first graphics [...]

My intention was not to present this vehicle as my new vehicle, but to get some advises to make it in a better way.

Yes yes. Of course. Otherwise you´d be the very first guy copying foreign graphics without any "excuse" when trapped and shown up.

regards
Michael

I didn't say there was anything 'screwy' about isometric projections. I said there was something 'screwy' about vehicle lengths in TTDP, which there is.

(namely, that the diagonal views are 50% of the apparent horizontal length of the horizontal views, when they should be approximately 70%).

Oh yes, I understand. I will correct it next time.
The following Screenshot shows some coaches of the CSD-Set. They are longer than the normal vehicles. Also the diagonal length seems longer than a normal coach.

Afterwards some old graphics. May they a basic for some next vehicles.
Sorry Michael, next time without your using your graphics as basis for my pictures to be modified.

(and sorry for my bad english)

Regards

Now a shorter version of the Zs tank-waggon

Read my tutorials, especially the part about Light Effects.

I corrected the lights a little but, but may it was not a good idea to start with a tankkar. Of cause, the reflexions on the curved sides are hard to paint, but I hope that it became a little bit better, than before.

Regards