Tropic Refurbishment Set: v0.3c RELEASED!!

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Tropic Refurbishment Set: v0.3c RELEASED!!

Post by lifeblood » 04 Apr 2007 22:05

Hello,

This is the new thread1 for the Tropic Refurbishment Set. Drawn by uzurpator, and initially coded by PikkaBird, the set is now under my trusteeship, and the remainder will be coded by Death. :D

THE MOST CURRENT RELEASE IS ATTACHED TO THIS POST

1: see the old thread here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=19435&start=0
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Post by lobster » 05 Apr 2007 13:58

brilliant set. [/mode="spam"]
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Post by lifeblood » 06 Apr 2007 15:34

Death has agreed to finish this one off. :D

No, it's not dying, rather Death is going to code it.

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Post by uzurpator » 08 Apr 2007 08:17

I'm SO looking forward for this :)
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Post by wallyweb » 08 Apr 2007 12:39

uzurpator wrote:I'm SO looking forward for this :)
Welcome to the bleachers with the rest of us. :wink:

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Post by Death » 26 Apr 2007 14:21

OK, Here's the grf with the new trains (See below).
But before I add this s*** to the main set I have to know some things:
  • First of all, did I code it correctly (i.e. is there any mistake)?
  • the CT60 can transport only mail and passengers. Does it matter what type of passengers car or express car is added (there are 5 types of cars for each cargo)?
  • I saw in the main set that each locomotive have the line "suitable for: ... " in the purchase window, but this line doesn't make any sense 'cause you can attatch any car\van to the locomotive. is it should be like this?
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Post by PikkaBird » 26 Apr 2007 21:11

Death wrote:[*] I saw in the main set that each locomotive have the line "suitable for: ... " in the purchase window, but this line doesn't make any sense 'cause you can attatch any car\van to the locomotive. is it should be like this?
The "suitable for" line is a suggestion (based on speed, TE, real-life use etc), rather than a limiting factor. It's there for people who want to use the locomotives realistically, but if they don't I don't think we should stop them using them for whatever they like. :)

The only exception to this is things like EMUs, which would have different couplers etc in real life which prevent them from hauling normal wagons.

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Post by Death » 27 Apr 2007 11:24

Oops... I've just noticed that I did a mistake with the articulated engines,
so I upload a new version (see the last post).
ISA wrote:Good work Death!!! You are on big coding machine!
PikkaBird wrote:The "suitable for" line is a suggestion (based on speed, TE, real-life use etc), rather than a limiting factor. It's there for people who want to use the locomotives realistically, but if they don't I don't think we should stop them using them for whatever they like. :)

The only exception to this is things like EMUs, which would have different couplers etc in real life which prevent them from hauling normal wagons.
Thanks guys. the main set will be updated very soon.

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Post by Death » 29 Apr 2007 09:12

Here we go...

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(download the grf from the first post)
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Post by PikkaBird » 29 Apr 2007 10:19

You might want to look at the spelling of "Diesel" in some of those locomotive names. ;)

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Post by Death » 29 Apr 2007 10:37

Updated.

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Post by uzurpator » 01 May 2007 16:32

O - I'll take a closer look today.

But from the first glimpse - the color-coded boxcars are not in, just futuristic locos. :)

EDIT: OFC this is lifebloods domain, so he has to decide if he wants them or not :)
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Post by lifeblood » 01 May 2007 23:21

Sorry! I've been busy the last few days and didn't get a chance to update this thread.

Death: nice work with the engines. This set is more complete now! Uzurpator is correct in that there are more sprites waiting to be coded, basically passenger and freight cars. If you are interested...

Uzurpator: I figured coding the rest of the engines was top priority, the cars are secondary. I also figured it was easy to attract a coder if the project wasn't too large. :wink:

Also, who is maintaining the GRFCrawler entry for this set?

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Post by uzurpator » 02 May 2007 06:25

blah - you of course :)

Bugs I found so far:

Running costs are bonked abit - WAG10 costs something like $10k to run, while WAG6c costs whopping 60k
RMd55 has no capacity - should be 55 pass and 15 mail
And a bug that I am guilty of - some locomotives have no stock to pull at their rated speed (the 225 kmh african loco comes to mind).
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Post by Death » 02 May 2007 08:09

  • uzurpator wrote:Running costs are bonked abit - WAG10 costs something like $10k to run, while WAG6c costs whopping 60k
    So how it should be?
  • uzurpator wrote:And a bug that I am guilty of - some locomotives have no stock to pull at their rated speed (the 225 kmh african loco comes to mind).
    Do you mean WAM-12? How it should be?

    I'm abit confused... :?

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Post by uzurpator » 02 May 2007 09:12

1. You should get an XLS from lifeblood detailing all the changes and tweaks from 1.0 to 2.0.

2. WAM'12' and 'Masai' has top speed of 225/250 kmh (respectively), and that is OK. But there are no psgr cars that can run at that speed since certain uzurpator didn't include them (shame on the moron). I'll provide them tomorrow.

EDIT: The xls has new running cost scheme for all locomotives. Also there was a proposition to make a parameter that will set running costs to
- low (half of the xls values)
- normal
- high (2x the xls)
- horrible rape (4x of the xls)

EDIT2: lifeblood - once you edit the grfcrawler I will raze down the old website. Tis bes thy set afterall :)
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Post by lifeblood » 02 May 2007 16:18

I can't edit your GRFCrawler entry. So, delete yours, and I'll add my own. Also, I supplied Death with all the info from XLS for the locomotives he was coding.

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Post by Death » 02 May 2007 17:46

uzurpator wrote:1. You should get an XLS from lifeblood detailing all the changes and tweaks from 1.0 to 2.0.
I've had it already. first of all WAG-6C is not one of the new locomotives that I coded.
And WAG-10 have about $15,000 running-cost according to the .xls (If it correct). is this what you're talking about? 'Cause it doesn't really change the WAG-6C's "whopping"...
unzurpator wrote:EDIT: The xls has new running cost scheme for all locomotives.
Amm... could you guys let me see the updated .xls please?

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Post by lifeblood » 03 May 2007 02:42

Death, here you go. This is what uzurpator sent me (it's a little disorganised).
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