Trial Livery?

[Raichase]

but the Alstom livery will be a good start.

It's a shame that we can't have trains displaying a different livery only for the testing phase of their lives. Ie, while on trial, they display livery X, wheras when introduced for "all players", they take on livery Y...

[BobDendry]

That could be done via varaction 02s, but it would require A LOT of guesswork, and would not always work.

[DaleStan]

Why not? Does var 48 not do what you want?

[Snail]

Experimental liveries... that could be a wonderful feature

[Raichase]

That could be done via varaction 02s, but it would require A LOT of guesswork, and would not always work.

Well, that my point. As TTD feels the need to randomise intro dates, it's rather confusing.

Granted, we should take this discussion to the suggestions forum

EDIT: Split the topic out. Dalestan, for the uneducated, what DOES that do?

[DaleStan]

It tells you the current state of the vehicle type in question. One of
1) Vehicle type is generally available.
2) Vehicle type is exclusively available to as single player.
3) Vehicle type is on offer to a human player.

One thing it notably does not tell you is whether the vehicle was built during the testing phase.

[wallyweb]

but the Alstom livery will be a good start.

It's a shame that we can't have trains displaying a different livery only for the testing phase of their lives. Ie, while on trial, they display livery X, wheras when introduced for "all players", they take on livery Y...

Perhaps I am misunderstanding the question but here is my 2 cents worth:

1. Why must a testing phase livery be limited to only to the testing phase?
2. Does the change-over period have to be precise? Perhaps the game's variability is acceptable?
3 Perhaps a "1 year" overrun for the testing phase livery during which all players could then try the new equipment would be acceptable?
4. Can this feature be patched to accommodate a fixed repaint time?

[Snail]

1. Why must a testing phase livery be limited to only to the testing phase?

Basically because such a feature would recreate the fact that the vehicle is just fresh from the factory and still in an experimental phase. This historically happened with lots of new engines, and during that phase the company is still debating whether to keep the vehicle or not. Therefore, an appropriate livery has usually not been designed yet, and the vehicle displays the constructor's color scheme.

3 Perhaps a "1 year" overrun for the testing phase livery during which all players could then try the new equipment would be acceptable?

Well, I'd say that limiting this just to the company that is testing it would be better. It would be a more accurate recreation of what happens in the real world. Usually it's just one company that tests new rolling stock out. After the testing phase finishes, and therefore the engine is available to all companies, the already-existing vehicles of that type could see their livery changed, say, the first time they enter a depot.

[WWTBAM]

I like the idea, but sets should also offer the ability to use the livery aftr testing as some people may like the testing livery.

[OzTrans]

1. Why must a testing phase livery be limited to only to the testing phase?

Provided the vehicle carries cargo, you could use livery refitting. During the test phase, you'll get the trial livery (the only one at that time). Lateron the player could refit to the real livery or retain the trial livery until the vehicle is sold or renewed. Vehicles bought after the test phase would not be refittable to the trial livery. Of course, at any time after the test phase you could get an automatic repaint too.

[Lakie]

One thing it notably does not tell you is whether the vehicle was built during the testing phase.

I always meant alter it so that was stored on the vehicle but kept forgetting...
I believe storing a bit on the vehicle based off bit 2 would be good enough?

~ Lakie

[DaleStan]

I thought bit 2 was only set when the "A manufacturer has developed a new vehicle, would you like to test it?" window was open?

[Raichase]

I like the idea, but sets should also offer the ability to use the livery aftr testing as some people may like the testing livery.

Yes, I'd want to keep my trail train in the trial livery, as a company advertisement (I assume the company chose me to test it for a reason )

[Lakie]

Sorry, I was referring to the bit by value, I meant bit 1.

~ Lakie

[Lakie]

As of the last nightly, bit 9 in veh.modflags should show if it was built in the trail phase.
(Or just using "81 FF 00 02" will work, for testing for that bit).

Still working on adding it to planes, ships and road vehicles.
(Articulated Road Vehicles, should also have it set?)

~ Lakie

[Patchman]

As of the last nightly, bit 9 in veh.modflags should show if it was built in the trail phase.

Actually, bit 10, since bit 9 was already used in 2.6 for something else.

[Raichase]

So Lakie, what you're saying is, any trains built in the trial phase can now have a seperate livery? God, you're good. Now, to pester Pikka, DanMacK and Michael to start using this .

[BobDendry]

what about pestering WhiteHand?

[Raichase]

what about pestering WhiteHand?

He's a nonce.

[michael blunck]

> Now, to pester Pikka, DanMacK and Michael to start using this .

I don´t know of any "test liveries" for german trains.

regards
Michael