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Budding Artist
Posted: 07 Sep 2006 07:09
by m4rek
Edit by Raichase - This was split from the "looking for a grf topic" in the TTD section. Thought it might recieve the attention it deserved here
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is anyone here intrested in teaching me to draw and code things?
or maybe some links to tutorials if you dont want to teach me...
Posted: 07 Sep 2006 16:00
by jvassie
Hey there, always nice to see someone willing to learn.
http://users.tt-forums.net/purno/PDT/re ... index.html That is Purno's awesome drawing tutorials, and will help you get started in the drawing world

Posted: 07 Sep 2006 16:59
by Snail
Welcome M4rek!
I agree, it's cool to have one more person interested in being more active.
If you want to become a coder, you'll be in great demand

Not many people can, and if you learn to do it right and to implement new things, you can help a lot of people out there.
If you want to draw, follow James' advice, Purno's tutorials are very useful! What would you be interested in drawing?
what i want to draw
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 07:08
by m4rek
There are currently a few things on my mind...articulated lorries that are actually atriculated (which is apparently possible now), and a few particular planes that i would like introduced, but im afraid these planes would require serious work...i will colect a few images of these planes before i explain my master plan....wish me luck
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 08:04
by Dave
Hmmm, indeed. Some British trucks would be nice. Pikka's stuff is very much gaered towards the old TT style, which is awesome because it looks great, but some people prefer realism.
Also, get some trains done and join the British Rail Set

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Posted: 08 Sep 2006 11:29
by Purno
Aye, about lorries; You can use TT's original size, which is, AFAIK, identical to the size of trains, which is mentioned at my tutorials. Or, you can use the scale of George's long vehicles. George got some image about vehicle scales somewhere, I remember.
And about planes, I guess some peeps in the planeset can help you with the correct scale/size thingies.
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 11:50
by Wile E. Coyote
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 13:25
by Villem
Though please note, vehicles drawn with Georges scales are usually quite A LOT larger than TTD vehicles, making curving look a bit odd at times.

MY vehicles
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 17:10
by m4rek
My vehicles are more likely to be based on whatever i feel looks nice...there are some aircraft (as i said already) that i wash to do which will be based on the real thing...as for the things i feel look nice, they may or may not have a real-life counterpart
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 17:20
by Dave
That's a breath of fresh air, actually. Someone building just because - something fictional, something wacky. I like that.
I am glad
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 17:40
by m4rek
1. not all of my stuff will be wacky, but some will, i promise - but i definatly am building just because...(and its fun seeing it come together...and if you dont like it you can change it- the beauty of BEING the artist)
2.i need a bit of help...im just designing my first carriage (tutorial1) in old type colours...what colour should the roof be? any ideas??
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 17:42
by Dave
Well, it's totally up to you. A lot of roofs are black.. But then others follow the colours of the paint jobs.
i think i got it
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 17:44
by m4rek
im trying to coordinate with the paint job, ill post the carriage images as soon as i finish, both with roof and with out...and we'll see what might be best
EDIT:
with roof colours as i thought it may work,
and without roof colours, for reference
what colour roof should i use? is this good?
AND: what do you think of the carriage colours themselves...i appreciate input
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 18:17
by Dave
Are they a fictitious livery?
It's not bad for a first attempt.
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 18:18
by Purno
I don't think a railway company would use a brown livery very easily. Usually they use bright/clean colors like red, white, blue, yellow (and green (and a bit of brown) in the early times).
And usually roofs are grey.
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 18:20
by m4rek
i swear i have seen brown passenger carriages...i swear...
and i hope that none of you have a stupid sense of humour and says that its rude to swear, and that swearing isnt permitted on the forums
EDIT: these sort of colours perhaps?
Posted: 08 Sep 2006 19:26
by Born Acorn
All the early trains were brown, and most up to WW2 were brown, since wood is brown.
Do people always have to assume it's in modern times?

Posted: 09 Sep 2006 08:24
by Raichase
I like it. The pink brings out the windows.

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No, it's pretty darn good for a first go. I like the idea of a brown roof, but perhaps see what it looks like with a dark grey roof. A lot of European coaches had black rooves because of some kind of material (I keep thinking tar, but I'm probably wrong) to keep the car cool in winter, and warm in summer. Or the other way around. Long Day.
At any rate, thats coming along fantastically, Purnos tutorials are basically all you need to get started on art, and then it's just pracise, doing and re-doing all of the things until you're happy with them.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006 08:28
by WWTBAM
one thing, if its meant to be an old coach like the one in the picture, should the windows be transparent as theres no glass in some of them.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006 09:00
by Raichase
robotboy wrote:one thing, if its meant to be an old coach like the one in the picture, should the windows be transparent as theres no glass in some of them.
Firstly, I don't think thats the coach he's aiming for, because, it would be shorter, and secondly, it would have the door in the middle.
Besides, transperant windows wouldn't look right - one would have to see the passengers, and have it only be transperant if there are none. Finally, I don't the perspective of TT and the vehicles is such that you can see from one window to the other, because remember, we are looking DOWN.