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Total ammount of stations in a game

Posted: 14 May 2006 22:42
by nikolaci
Can it be increased, cause i got the message "too many stations/loading areas".

Posted: 14 May 2006 22:46
by wallyweb
The game only provides so many names per town for stations. The workaround is to rename a few of them, as many as you need extra stations.

Posted: 14 May 2006 22:54
by nikolaci
I've chaged all the names of the stations in the city, but i get the same problem

Posted: 14 May 2006 23:14
by PikkaBird
You can't change the absolute limit of stations, no. Try combining some stations into one, if you can.

Posted: 15 May 2006 00:16
by wallyweb
nikolaci wrote:I've chaged all the names of the stations in the city, but i get the same problem
Wow ... Pickabird is right. My workaround will let you get more stations per city but there is an absolute total limit. How many stations do you have?

Posted: 15 May 2006 09:19
by nikolaci
How do i count the stations, don't tell me that the only way is maunually? :))

Posted: 15 May 2006 09:40
by PikkaBird
If you have reached the station limit, then there are 250 stations on the map.

Posted: 15 May 2006 12:35
by nikolaci
If nubmer of vehicles was possible to increase, could the same thing be done with the stations? Maybe in new ttdx?

Posted: 15 May 2006 15:53
by SuperTycoon
nikolaci wrote:How do i count the stations, don't tell me that the only way is maunually? :))
Use the sign cheat
cht: debug
for information on station count etc.

Posted: 15 May 2006 17:55
by DaleStan
Close. But it's cht:debugger.

Posted: 15 May 2006 22:22
by nikolaci
Yes, i've reached the limit 250/250 :((

Posted: 15 May 2006 22:49
by wallyweb
nikolaci wrote:Yes, i've reached the limit 250/250 :((
Ok ... the strategy now is to combine several stations into one.
Keep in mind that bus stops, bus stations, truck stations, airports, docks and train stations all count towards the 250 limit.
If you have a bus station/stop, a truck station and a railway station fairly close to each other, remove the bus station/stop and the truck station. Their names will become grey. Wait a couple of minutes for their names to dissappear. Then rebuild them so that they are touching the train station. They will then become a part of the train station. You will see their symbols added to the end of the station name. You will now be able to build two more stations somewhere else.

In the future try to combine one of each station type into one station group.
You can combine 1 bus station/stop, 1 truck stop, 1 airport, 1 dock and/or 1 railway station all together into 1 station.

Good luck :D

Posted: 16 May 2006 13:20
by nikolaci
Is there a possibility to increase station coverage, so that one station can be used for the whole city :)

Posted: 16 May 2006 13:55
by broodje
yes:
Walk your bus stop/freight depot from the station into your city :). Some call it cheating I call it strategic recourse management :P.

look here for an explanation of the trick

Posted: 16 May 2006 14:11
by Dave
Cheating!? Never! Best trick ever that one :wink:

Posted: 16 May 2006 14:24
by 3iff
As an alternative to the walking trick, using irregular stations, it's possible to build an extention to an existing rail station...or maybe 2 or 3 extensions and have a single rail station tile many squares away from the original station...

Then build a bus/truck depot against this if you wish. Finally, delete the extra station extensions (maybe control/dynamite to delete single squares).

Boosts the catchment area of that station and helps reduce the total stations count...

Posted: 16 May 2006 22:53
by nikolaci
It's a nice trick but it doesn't do what i want.It's hard to make it work on an existing town, you'd have to wipe it clean.Let's say you wanna cover a huge town with one station. It can go over 50 tiles. Distance between 2 train stations can be 14 tiles + 4 on each size (station coverage) + a bus station and it's 4 tiles (bus station coverage). In total that's 28 tiles in width and let's say 13 tiles in lenght that that one station covers, and that's not even half of the city.

Posted: 17 May 2006 00:26
by Dave
How many major cities in the world are covered by one Rail Station? London has, like, 6 doesn't it? And that's above-ground stations.

Manchester has 3, Liverpool has 2, Birmingham has 4, etc.

I dunno internationally.

I think that's a good realistic feature - it's very true that for large cities one station is not enough.

Posted: 17 May 2006 05:47
by PikkaBird
Dave Worley wrote:How many major cities in the world are covered by one Rail Station? London has, like, 6 doesn't it? And that's above-ground stations.
London has six terminuses. Greater London has about three hundred and fifty mainline railway stations.

Posted: 17 May 2006 07:06
by 3iff
nikolaci wrote:It's a nice trick but it doesn't do what i want.
As already mentioned by the previous two posters, your 'want' doesn't seem realistic. If there was to be just one bus station in my city, I would be queueing with several thousand other passengers.

A large station can easily cover a significant portion of a city but unless it's built before the city starts growing then you're only going to get a partial coverage. Most of my larger cities have at least 3 rail stations of 2*5 platforms, sometimes larger!

Agreed that for already built cities, the system can be difficult to engineer...if that's what you wish to end up with then you have to plan well in advance, get your big rail stations in place before the city grows. The best time is probably once the debt is paid off and you've lots of cash rolling in.