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Spaghetti junction

Posted: 28 Apr 2006 15:55
by el koeno
Anyone ever tried to create a junction like this one near Frankfurt?
This one near The Hague is pretty neat too.

Posted: 28 Apr 2006 16:16
by metalangel
It's easy... just switch on all seven AI companies and let them build railways for 10 years or so.

Posted: 28 Apr 2006 17:03
by Plastikman
metalangel wrote:It's easy... just switch on all seven AI companies and let them build railways for 10 years or so.
LMFAO!! so very true....


i have built some pretty complicated junctions but without pre-signals and waypoints... the trains get hoplessly lost.

Posted: 29 Apr 2006 21:07
by metalangel
Plastikman wrote:
metalangel wrote:It's easy... just switch on all seven AI companies and let them build railways for 10 years or so.
LMFAO!! so very true....


i have built some pretty complicated junctions but without pre-signals and waypoints... the trains get hoplessly lost.
My dad also plays Lomo and has pretty much given up building anything too complex as he is constantly astonished by just how far the AI will go to get itself stuck.

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Posted: 29 Apr 2006 21:36
by Plastikman
that is exacly why i turn off the AI........ :roll:

Posted: 30 Apr 2006 00:44
by Costas
check what i have to go through every time my car needs service...

Birmingham spaghetti Junction

Posted: 30 Apr 2006 08:00
by Seelenquell
this game has an AI? i´m sure this is not known as AI (I for intelligence) what about AD (for dumbness) ? we should give it a new name.

Posted: 30 Apr 2006 15:47
by el koeno
Costas wrote:check what i have to go through every time my car needs service...

Birmingham spaghetti Junction
I hope they give you some clear waypoints to follow ;).

I always turn the AI off (allergic to brick-spaghetti), but I don't think they build real networks, do they? Because if they did I wonder whether it could build junctions that the pathfinding can't handle.

BTW: Los Angeles has its share of spaghetti too of course

Posted: 30 Apr 2006 16:22
by Plastikman
el koeno wrote: BTW: Los Angeles has its share of spaghetti too of course
LoL i have driven the LA spaghetti many times. it is actually pretty simple. it is a standard cloverleaf junction, BUT the outer lanes (normal trafic) and the inner lanes (express car pool only) both take the clover. the car pool goes up over the rest of the road for the junction. kind of nice so you dont have to leave the express lane to make your turn.

Posted: 01 May 2006 13:46
by el koeno
Plastikman wrote: LoL i have driven the LA spaghetti many times. it is actually pretty simple.
To bad you didn't code the pathfinding in Loco! ;)

And just to add some more cool satellite pics: The excellent site Google Sightseeing featured this cool-looking real life Ro-Ro station a while back. There's more of them when you look around a bit. Look at those long trains!

Posted: 01 May 2006 14:02
by G-TANK-G
well, im pretty organised with my juctions, take a look at this one... this one lets the trains run smoothly into stations.... sometimes

Posted: 01 May 2006 14:08
by Plastikman
actually that is a terminus station.. i think the trains looke long is because that is storage and maintnance for the trains between rush hours, chicagos map is like that all the metra trains lined up cratting cleaned and serviced waiting for the PM rush. fun site though... i could spend all day sightseeing on it.

Posted: 02 May 2006 14:57
by teccuk
The first lot are cool, that second junction is sweet! A full four level stack in the middle with a strange ad-hoc grade sperated cross over interchange and then a semi clover with a straight foward trumpet in the south, then to the north a sort of half clover two directional T... quite an impressive stretch of road :O

Speggetti junction is a supremely impressive peice of engineering, totally ad-hoc and nearly full directional... shame i only make mini roundabouts ands stuff :(

The LA one is cool too, that sat map is exactly as you imaginge it, all low density with huge motorways and grid patterns... bit dull but i'd like to see it for real anyway. Going to Texas in November i got this list made up of american stuff i want to see, third after a McDonalds (as i hear they are bigger :P) and a 'mall' is some hardcore 10 lane mutha highways. There'd better be some or i'll be disappointed.

Posted: 02 May 2006 15:07
by andysine
If i'm not mistaken, Birmingham Spaghetti Junction (or The Gravelly Hill Interchange to give it its proper name) is the only major junction in europe to incorporate road rail and canals. Then again - I might be mistaken.

Posted: 02 May 2006 15:41
by el koeno
While not a spaghetti junction, this ro-ro station is about as complex as I make things in my networks. I never really build spaghetti junctions like the one in the Hague, although I use (semi-)cloverleafs quite lot.

Posted: 04 May 2006 09:28
by metalangel
The 'Magic Roundabout' in Swindon...
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...and how you drive it:
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Posted: 04 May 2006 10:38
by Shifty Powers
You can't call that a roundabout, you should call that "hell". Even in Holland we're not that crazy to make that kind of roundabouts.

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Note: In Holland we drive on the right side of the road.

Posted: 04 May 2006 11:19
by Frrrrrank
Well, we do have some hellish roundabouts in the Netherlands. The Keizer Karelplein in Nijmegen is a good (or should I say bad) example. It is part of the main roadsystem in Nijmegen. Six seperate roads lead to it. As a bonus, traffic coming onto the roundabout have right-of-way, and there are no markings on the roundabout (which is about 3 to 4 "lanes" wide).

Sorry, but I couldn't find a picture of the roundabout...

Posted: 04 May 2006 15:11
by teccuk
That Swindon roundabout is just dumb... i mean seriously, make it a little smaller and normal for crying out loud.

Love the NL one, noticed all the wonderful clear crossing points for predestrains and cylcists... we dont do that in Britain...

Posted: 04 May 2006 16:00
by DJC
metalangel wrote:The 'Magic Roundabout' in Swindon...
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That roundabout has a cult status with Swindon football fans, you can see the stadium in the top left of the photo.