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Newbie question on graphics

Posted: 16 Feb 2006 02:47
by batman19
I played TTDP b4, and thinking about playing OTTD One quick question here.
I read A LOT of post in the forums and still dont understand how to edit graphics from games

I remember i can run an editor software for TTDpatch, add all the graphics on this list........ then run the game.

How does that work in OTTP? Do i have to edit some of the "code" to be able to change graphics? Or is there an editor like TTDpatch. I need a "user friendly" way to change some of the graphics.

Posted: 16 Feb 2006 03:14
by Sacro
In OpenTTD you simply place the grf files into your data folder. Then edit you openttd.cfg file, adding

[newgrf]
filename1.grf
filename2.grf

Posted: 16 Feb 2006 05:23
by batman19
Sacro wrote:In OpenTTD you simply place the grf files into your data folder. Then edit you openttd.cfg file, adding

[newgrf]
filename1.grf
filename2.grf
how do u overwrite the old one then?

for example
airplane A i want to update to new graphics

how can i edite airplane A with new graphics over the old one?

Posted: 16 Feb 2006 10:20
by bobingabout
well, editing graphics, and using graphics packs are 2 completly seperate things...

editing graphics:
this is basicly creating a graphics pack, any of the tools you use in TTDP will work for OTTD(assuming the command is supported, which many are), GRFCodec is basicly what you need. also, look at the NFO guide, and get some graphics editing software. paintbrush will do aslong as you have something that can convert the bitmaps into PCXs, which were never supported on the windows NT environment (this includes 2000 and XP)

Using Graphics packs:
again, very simular to TTDP, main difference is instead of having a newgrf folder and a newgrfw.cfg file, you have a [newgrf] section in OTTD's main config file, right at the bottom, add the GRF filename.grf, instead of newgrf/filename.grf. like what sacro said, the GRF files want to be in the "Data" folder.

so, its basicly the same as TTDP. except only about 90% of the files work in OTTD, because TTDP's Patchman wrote the newGRF format, and OTTD are just playing "Catchup"

Posted: 16 Feb 2006 10:23
by Brianetta
batman19, all this information is specified in the newgrf file itself. The newgrf is designed to replace or add graphics, specifications and the like in a very specific fashion. You don't get to choose what the newgrf file replaces, you have to have a newgrf file that is set to replace the item you want.

The TTDPatch Graphics forum is probably the most productive place to get help on this subject.

Posted: 16 Feb 2006 16:47
by batman19
bobingabout wrote:well, editing graphics, and using graphics packs are 2 completly seperate things...

editing graphics:
this is basicly creating a graphics pack, any of the tools you use in TTDP will work for OTTD(assuming the command is supported, which many are), GRFCodec is basicly what you need. also, look at the NFO guide, and get some graphics editing software. paintbrush will do aslong as you have something that can convert the bitmaps into PCXs, which were never supported on the windows NT environment (this includes 2000 and XP)

Using Graphics packs:
again, very simular to TTDP, main difference is instead of having a newgrf folder and a newgrfw.cfg file, you have a [newgrf] section in OTTD's main config file, right at the bottom, add the GRF filename.grf, instead of newgrf/filename.grf. like what sacro said, the GRF files want to be in the "Data" folder.

so, its basicly the same as TTDP. except only about 90% of the files work in OTTD, because TTDP's Patchman wrote the newGRF format, and OTTD are just playing "Catchup"

Sorry manybe i'm just dump, you lost me there

lol, all i want is maybe change the airplane to some new graphics that i can download here. So i have no idea what is "editing graphics" or "Using graphics pack"
Do i just follow the stick post up top to do that?

Posted: 16 Feb 2006 21:25
by Korenn
batman19 wrote:
bobingabout wrote:well, editing graphics, and using graphics packs are 2 completly seperate things...

editing graphics:
this is basicly creating a graphics pack, any of the tools you use in TTDP will work for OTTD(assuming the command is supported, which many are), GRFCodec is basicly what you need. also, look at the NFO guide, and get some graphics editing software. paintbrush will do aslong as you have something that can convert the bitmaps into PCXs, which were never supported on the windows NT environment (this includes 2000 and XP)

Using Graphics packs:
again, very simular to TTDP, main difference is instead of having a newgrf folder and a newgrfw.cfg file, you have a [newgrf] section in OTTD's main config file, right at the bottom, add the GRF filename.grf, instead of newgrf/filename.grf. like what sacro said, the GRF files want to be in the "Data" folder.

so, its basicly the same as TTDP. except only about 90% of the files work in OTTD, because TTDP's Patchman wrote the newGRF format, and OTTD are just playing "Catchup"

Sorry manybe i'm just dump, you lost me there

lol, all i want is maybe change the airplane to some new graphics that i can download here. So i have no idea what is "editing graphics" or "Using graphics pack"
Do i just follow the stick post up top to do that?
what he's talking about is actually making graphics yourself and putting them ingame.

what you want is what Sacro wrote. any grf you load will overwrite all previously loaded graphics, including the originals.

Posted: 17 Feb 2006 09:30
by bobingabout
which is basicly "Using Graphics packs:"
someone makes some new graphics, writes the code, then releases it, thats a graphics pack.