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<edit>After 345 downloads i am removing this item. there is an updated version in the US & Canadian set with more containers and boxcars. pick it up at AMI trains http://www.amitrains.co.uk/


Well, I got so busy totaly forgot about this request. http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=22684

I had the finnished cars sitting collecting dust untill i played the Game lastnight and remembered that i was going to release them. i never got around to exstensive beta testing. they seem to work well without clipping and scaled down to fit the tiny size of the stations in Loco.

I also tossed in a multi state boxcar for beta pourposes. It is a Great Northern Car with multi states for cargo. Clean/new for empty. Dirty and rusty for goods, and a shiny bright reefer for food. this box car is scaled closely to the boxcar inthe game already. It is an ugly car but it is a for beta pourposes.

Please let me know how well these work for you. comments or problems with the cars. I wanted to mostly know how it lines up with other rollingstock and engines both ingame and user created. (I have scaled and shifted these cars so much I am not sure if they are on center anymore.) I find a direct import looks good, but the scale is just not right for gameplay.

the rest of what i make might be based off these cars. as far as game scale.

Name: US TTX Goods Doublestack
Speed: 85 MPH.
Rel: N/A
Weight: 20
Design Year: 1985
Obsolete Year: none
Capacity and type of cargo: 35 goods. (I might bump this up since you have the same boxcar for 30 years)
Multistate: Yes

Name: US Goods 50' Boxcar
Speed: 85 MPH.
Rel: N/A
Weight: 511 total
Design Year: 1955
Obsolete Year: Removed for now
Capacity and type of cargo: 30 goods or food.
Multistate:Yes

The stats/payloads are not far from what the game gives you. I did not want to make the new cars unbalencing. just a facelift to the game, something more american to play with.

Thank you Plastikman . How did you get it so that the containers appear on the wagons depending on how fully loaded the train is with goods?

the same way its done with the coal/iron ore wagon, theres a bit setting to enable multiple states, and theres 5 sets of sprites for the wagon, empty, half coal, full coal, half ore, full ore; for each angle. the goods wagons plastikman is making would be simpler, as theres only 3 views, empty, half goods, full goods

marc___1 wrote:the same way its done with the coal/iron ore wagon, theres a bit setting to enable multiple states, and theres 5 sets of sprites for the wagon, empty, half coal, full coal, half ore, full ore; for each angle. the goods wagons plastikman is making would be simpler, as theres only 3 views, empty, half goods, full goods

Yup, You got that right marc. I made the boxcar Multistate also just for $h1t$ and grins. it is not really simpler or harder. ok, maybe it is if you are doing it by hand, I made a script to to build the multistate cars. you try to do all that by hand! I originaly wrote it for testing running gear then migrated it to hoppers and other car types.

Speaking of Coal Cars, You know i have a UP coal car from the correct era for Loco that would look really nice behind your bigboy in your signature there.... UGH! i want to do steam! would anyone be upset if the running gear didnt work on a steamengine? i have yet to get a way to make working runninggear.

the running gear on the bigboy doesnt work, it would need another 800 odd sprites, and i dont know how to get sprites from differnt parts of the stroke in MSTS2LOCO

i would like to see those coal wagons though

Hell, To see a steam engine with working running gear in Lomo.. I would eagerly take the images by hand. if we only had a way!

in vehicle creator (which i assume you're using), graphics tab;

where it has numdir, field 1, field 2 etc
the description of field 2 says that normal trains (not animated) use 1, and steam loco's with animated parts use 4 (im assuming this means 4 frames)
decompile one of the loco's with a tender, i picked baldwin1.dat
look at sprites 016-019, all the same angle with the wheels moved in each frame

so, for the big boy, we would have to make 4 sets of sprites for each animated part.
136 for each part of the stroke, x 4 = 544 sprites
x2 for the second part of it = 1088 sprites
+136 for the tender = 1224 sprites

bring it on
(you draw and ill code )

LMAO! I knew that part. I ment the part where we get the sprites in the first place! i think we are getting off topic. how is the container car working for you?

Plastikman wrote:Hell, To see a steam engine with working running gear in Lomo.. I would eagerly take the images by hand. if we only had a way!

but you said you'll draw by hand
we would need some way to move the wheels in the msts model before generating the sprites, for that i have no idea

i havent tried the cargo wagons yet, i think ill do that now

very nice indeed Great job once again Plastik

marc___1 wrote:

Plastikman wrote:Hell, To see a steam engine with working running gear in Lomo.. I would eagerly take the images by hand. if we only had a way!

but you said you'll draw by hand
we would need some way to move the wheels in the msts model before generating the sprites, for that i have no idea

i havent tried the cargo wagons yet, i think ill do that now

The forfather of MSTS2lomo was capable of that

Illegal_Alien wrote:

marc___1 wrote:

Plastikman wrote:Hell, To see a steam engine with working running gear in Lomo.. I would eagerly take the images by hand. if we only had a way!

but you said you'll draw by hand
we would need some way to move the wheels in the msts model before generating the sprites, for that i have no idea

i havent tried the cargo wagons yet, i think ill do that now

The forfather of MSTS2lomo was capable of that

Does anyone have a copy of this?

i've noticed something in MSTS 2 Loco, at least the version im using, when viewing the train, rotate it to 0 or 180 degrees and drag the elevation slider back and forth, the model seems to tilt left/right rather than up/down, this is how the sprites come out of it aswell. i noticed it when i was looking at the container wagons on sloped curves

marc___1 wrote:i've noticed something in MSTS 2 Loco, at least the version im using, when viewing the train, rotate it to 0 or 180 degrees and drag the elevation slider back and forth, the model seems to tilt left/right rather than up/down, this is how the sprites come out of it aswell. i noticed it when i was looking at the container wagons on sloped curves

Yeah, thats a known bug with MSTS2Loco the camera angles are off slightly for the slopes that cause a "leaning effect" that is a lot better then the sandbox effect that the earlier versions had. it is exagerated by taller vehicals it looks like. bummer.

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=22834

shame i know very little about programming

ok has anyone actually used the box car?

how is it game scale?

should i continue to make stuff like this?

I have used the boxcar.

The game scale is fine.

please do continue.

yeah! Please, release some more, what you do is great!

Well, for example if a train is 21 meters long in real life, and you model it 21 units in the modelling program, you'd probably want it 30% smaller to make it fit with loco's scale.

I tried downloading this pack and when it opened in winRar, it said the file was corrupt and ended unexpectedly, could you repost is by chance?