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According to the oracles, agmtt was newgrouped by tol...@geocities.com
on Fri Nov 20 05:45:12 1998

HTH

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Mark Kelly <m...@nylon.net> wrote in message
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According to the oracles, agmtt was newgrouped by tol...@geocities.com
on Fri Nov 20 05:45:12 1998

HTH

According to Deja, this group was created on the 1st of August 1999. The
cmsg newgroup message did not include a charter or justification of the
creation of this group. 1st Aug 1999 doesn't sound right to me. Especially
as some people say they have been here since the spring of 1999. Type "cmsg
newgroup alt.games.microprose.transport-tyc" into a Deja search box, and see
the original post. How did you find out this information? Surely typing in
that above should return the correct control post, as it isn't a control
message if the subject doesn't begin "cmsg xxx" - in this case "newgroup."

Thanks,

Eddie

Eddie Bernard wrote:

Mark Kelly <m...@nylon.net> wrote in message
news:38853217.32C7A054@nylon.net...
According to the oracles, agmtt was newgrouped by tol...@geocities.com
on Fri Nov 20 05:45:12 1998

HTH

According to Deja, this group was created on the 1st of August 1999.
It was boosted then. The newgroup cmsg was sent in Nov 98

The
cmsg newgroup message did not include a charter or justification of the
creation of this group. 1st Aug 1999 doesn't sound right to me. Especially
as some people say they have been here since the spring of 1999. Type "cmsg
newgroup alt.games.microprose.transport-tyc" into a Deja search box, and see
the original post. How did you find out this information? Surely typing in
that above should return the correct control post, as it isn't a control
message if the subject doesn't begin "cmsg xxx" - in this case "newgroup."

To look up archived control messages that created an alt.* group, visit
ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/alt/*****.Z (where ***** is the
group you want to
investigate. Remember the ".Z" after the group name. The file is
compressed. Just
downloading the list of alt names is over 1 Meg worth of FTP. Be
patient.)

isc.org archives every newgroup control message. Note: control messages
are handled specially by newsadmins. Properly formatted control
messages do *not* appear in newsgroups. They are detected by the bots
and interpreted as commands, not normal messages.

See my sig for alt newgrouping details.

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http://www.nylon.net Victoria, Australia

A starter on creating alt newsgroups: http://nylon.net/alt/newgroup.htm


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Mark Kelly <m...@nylon.net> wrote

Eddie Bernard wrote:

According to Deja, this group was created on the 1st of August 1999.

It was boosted then. The newgroup cmsg was sent in Nov 98

Ah I see. You have solved the long running debate we have been having on
here!

The
cmsg newgroup message did not include a charter or justification of the
creation of this group. 1st Aug 1999 doesn't sound right to me.
Especially
as some people say they have been here since the spring of 1999. Type
"cmsg
newgroup alt.games.microprose.transport-tyc" into a Deja search box, and
see
the original post. How did you find out this information? Surely typing
in
that above should return the correct control post, as it isn't a control
message if the subject doesn't begin "cmsg xxx" - in this case
"newgroup."

To look up archived control messages that created an alt.* group, visit
ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/alt/*****.Z (where ***** is the
group you want to
investigate. Remember the ".Z" after the group name. The file is
compressed. Just
downloading the list of alt names is over 1 Meg worth of FTP. Be
patient.)

I'll do that tommorow. Very tired right now! I look forward to it.

isc.org archives every newgroup control message. Note: control messages
are handled specially by newsadmins. Properly formatted control
messages do *not* appear in newsgroups. They are detected by the bots
and interpreted as commands, not normal messages.

Yeah, I've created a few groups in my time, so I know how it works. I wonder
why the first newgroup is not on Deja though. Even if the control message is
intercepted, it still appears on the Deja servers, but not in a news reader.

See my sig for alt newgrouping details.

I hate alt.config! I know that's irrelavent, but I just hate them!

Eddie Bernard <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> a écrit dans le message :
8659k7$l4...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...

According to Deja, this group was created on the 1st of August 1999. The
cmsg newgroup message did not include a charter or justification of the
creation of this group. 1st Aug 1999 doesn't sound right to me. Especially
as some people say they have been here since the spring of 1999.

It sound totally wrong to me because my old ISP already carried it on April
99 (when it -the ISP- was created).

Thanks,

Eddie

Mark Kelly <m...@nylon.net> wrote

Eddie Bernard wrote:

I hate alt.config! I know that's irrelavent, but I just hate them!

It's not an uncommon reaction. Things have been getting even more weird
there recently. Lotsa VERY weird people trying to do weirder things to
stop alt.config doing its job.

Yep, cross-posting flame wars are very common. But some Alt.Configgers are
so arrogant and nasty. They don't help, just flame. And what job is
alt.config meant to do anyway? Yes people post proposals there, but whether
or not they are accepted, people send the newgroup messages anyway. And then
along comes Jay Shaftnebeim (Denebiem) and rmgroups it. Since when has one
person decided what newsgroups we want and don't want? He doesn't appear to
know what he is talking about either. I send him emails demanding him to
explain an rmgroup, and he replies with some nonsense, which isn't true. He
always uses the excuse *No charter. Maybe if he scrolled the newgroup
message properly he would read it.

Eddie
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Eddie Bernard wrote:

I hate alt.config! I know that's irrelavent, but I just hate them!

It's not an uncommon reaction. Things have been getting even more weird
there recently. Lotsa VERY weird people trying to do weirder things to
stop alt.config doing its job.

--
Mark Kelly m...@nylon.net
http://www.nylon.net Victoria, Australia

A starter on creating alt newsgroups: http://nylon.net/alt/newgroup.htm

Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I


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