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Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 14 Jan 2000 00:00
by Denis Houde
My music songs works well but when i want to put the sound effert other
than no sound effects, ttdx crash does it normal?

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
why should i help you, posting where to get warez here

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Denis Houde <Denis_Ho...@concepta.com> wrote in message
news:387FA3BF.5B55BA0C@concepta.com...
: My music songs works well but when i want to put the sound effert other
: than no sound effects, ttdx crash does it normal?
:

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote
why should i help you, posting where to get warez here
Yes, go away spammer.

To all the kind people on here who like to help with sound problems, please
do not help this person. People like him are the ones responsible for Chris
Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.

Have a nice day.

Eddie
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-- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Bill Hayles
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:31:28 -0500, Denis Houde
<Denis_Ho...@concepta.com> wrote:
My music songs works well but when i want to put the sound effert other
than no sound effects, ttdx crash does it normal?
From your domain, I assume your own language is French. I will try to
reply in easy English.

Your problem is that the sound settings for DOS and TTDX do not agree
with those set by Windows.

Check the Windows settings (Control Panel - System - Device Manager -
Sound). Are these the same as the numbers in the SET BLASTER line in
AUTOEXEC.BAT?

If you need more help, you will need to post:

What soundcard you have
The Windows settings
AUTOEXEC.BAT and AUTOEXEC.DOS

What figures you are trying to set TTDX to.

Hope this helps.

From Benitachell, Alicante, Spain
Bill Hayles
bill...@ctv.es

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Peter J. Dobrovka
Eddie Bernard schrieb in Nachricht <85q01t$bo...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote
why should i help you, posting where to get warez here

Yes, go away spammer.

To all the kind people on here who
like to help with sound problems, please
do not help this person. People like him
are the ones responsible for Chris
Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.
Could you explain this causality?

Peter

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Peter J. Dobrovka wrote
Eddie Bernard schrieb in Nachricht

To all the kind people on here who
like to help with sound problems, please
do not help this person. People like him
are the ones responsible for Chris
Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.

Could you explain this causality?
Yes.
Warez is the downfall of all games. It's the "warez spiral" which causes it.
Higher prices, more warez, and if there is more warez, there are higher
prices, and if there are higher prices, there is more warez, and if there is
more warez there are higher prices etc. etc.
It's because of the "warezing" of games that causes programmers not to
bother making future releases, as they know that they will immediately be
put on the net. Also, warez costs money. Imagine Peter, that you have just
finished work on 3DTT and some low-life warezes it. That is it, to anyone
who can access the net, your game is free. As a result, you gain no money
from it, and that virtually ends the life of the game.

Eddie
-- Personal Site: http://www.ebernard.greatxscape.net
-- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Peter J. Dobrovka
Eddie Bernard schrieb in Nachricht <85q64n$fj...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Peter J. Dobrovka wrote
Eddie Bernard schrieb in Nachricht

To all the kind people on here who
like to help with sound problems, please
do not help this person. People like him
are the ones responsible for Chris
Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.

Could you explain this causality?

Yes.
Warez is the downfall of all games. It's the "warez spiral" which causes
it.
[snip]

I know this well but if this prevents C.S. from making a sequel to TT why
doesn't it prevent him from making RCT or any other game?

Peter
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http://www.digitalprojects.com/way-x

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Patchman
In article <85q01t$bo...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Eddie Bernard says...
Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote
why should i help you, posting where to get warez here

Yes, go away spammer.

To all the kind people on here who like to help with sound problems, please
do not help this person. People like him are the ones responsible for Chris
Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.
What makes you think that he's using an illegitimate version? He's just
writing about sound problems, those can occur with a bought game too.

I think you and Paul are a bit fast in your judgement.

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Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Patchman
In article <85q01t$bo...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Eddie Bernard says...
Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote
why should i help you, posting where to get warez here

Yes, go away spammer.
Ah...

Now I've seen Paul's reply to his other message. I didn't actually get
the original message, though. Maybe he's cancelled it?

Anyway, you should've replied in that thread, not this one, because you
can't be sure that everybody gets all the messages.

And also, technically he's not a spammer because all his messages were
on-topic for this NG.

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Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
but wait, we don't like CS, but what the hgell, better start flaming,
haven't ot owt back from geocities yet, will soon i hope

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Eddie Bernard <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> wrote in message
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: Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote
: > why should i help you, posting where to get warez here
:
: Yes, go away spammer.
:
: To all the kind people on here who like to help with sound problems,
please
: do not help this person. People like him are the ones responsible for
Chris
: Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.
:
: Have a nice day.
:
: Eddie
: -- Personal Site: http://www.ebernard.greatxscape.net
: -- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net
:
:

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Josef Drexler wrote
Eddie Bernard says...
To all the kind people on here who like to help with sound problems,
please
do not help this person. People like him are the ones responsible for
Chris
Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.

What makes you think that he's using an illegitimate version? He's just
writing about sound problems, those can occur with a bought game too.
Excuse me, but where in my post does it say I think he is using an
illegitimate version. Nowhere. He may well be using a legal version, but he
is still providing the world with a warez version.
I think you and Paul are a bit fast in your judgement.
And I don't think I am.

Eddie
-- Personal Site: http://www.ebernard.greatxscape.net
-- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
cos he's just f*** advertised where to download it for free, i think your
reply to fast josef

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Josef Drexler <jdrex...@julian.uwo.canada> wrote in message
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: In article <85q01t$bo...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Eddie Bernard says...
: > Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote
: > > why should i help you, posting where to get warez here
: >
: > Yes, go away spammer.
: >
: > To all the kind people on here who like to help with sound problems,
please
: > do not help this person. People like him are the ones responsible for
Chris
: > Sawyer not working on a TT sequel.
:
: What makes you think that he's using an illegitimate version? He's just
: writing about sound problems, those can occur with a bought game too.
:
: I think you and Paul are a bit fast in your judgement.
:
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Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Rijk
cos he's just f*** advertised where to download it for free, i think
your
reply to fast josef

Why are you all so extremely anti-warez? It's not a secret almost all of the
PC-gamers uses illegal copies....

Maybe the reason many people uses illegal copies isn't as criminal as it
seems...I think 50 dollars is still a lot of money for a game (that's the
price of almost all the games here in Holland), a game of which it is always
the question wether you are going to like it or not...I bought many games in
the past years which weren't worth there money at all, so I can imagine
people really get enough of paying money for something unexpectable. Then
they are easily persuaded to buy a five dollar copy of the game on school or
at work, from a friend who has a CD-writer. It sounds weak, but it's reality
and I'm sure you all know that. It's unrealistic to want everybody to be a
'plaster saint' where the seduction is so big....

And is it, just as with CD's, not also the software industry to blame? I
think 25 dollars for an audio CD and 50 dollar for a PC-Game is very high
for young people. I know that with games this money is needed to cover the
costs of development, but if prices where lower, they would sell more. Maybe
even such more, that the profit would be even higher. I think they will also
have to lower prices in the future, because with the increase of bandwidth
on internet, it will be easier and easier to get illegal copies. A more
flexibel attitude of the software (and music) industry towards their prices
would be very welcome and necessary to secure their existence in the future.

By the way, Transport Tycoon is an old game which is hardly nowhere sold
anymore. With the new Windows version, TTDLX and surely TTO became kind of
obsolete. Is it that bad then, that mr. Houde puts TTDLX (together with
another old game, Warcraft II) on the internet? I think it is at least not
enough reason to try to totally expel him from this newsgroup, by refusing
to answer him and by not so kindly asking him to get out.

I hope I haven't called your wrath upon me...be merciful, I'm a worthy
catholic, protected by the Lord and by the Holy Ghost. I'm a model student,
who tries always to make his homework and who tries to limit truancy to a
minimum, who never hits people without a reason, who brushes his teeths
every day in favor of the people around me..... But I had to have this said.

Alex R. (The Netherlands)

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Patchman
In article <s81p8873eh...@corp.supernews.com>, Paul Wright says...
cos he's just f*** advertised where to download it for free, i think your
reply to fast josef
Well, he didn't do that in this message, and I didn't get the other one.

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Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Rijk <familie.r...@wxs.nl> wrote
Why are you all so extremely anti-warez? It's not a secret almost all of
the
PC-gamers uses illegal copies....
I am anti-warez because of the effect on game prices. I'm not too happy that
I'm having to pay £34.99 for the latest game. Warez only pushes that price
up. All my software, apart from the operating system, and other utilities
has been paid for out of my own money. Not an illegal copy in sight. If you
want to count floppy disks, then yes I do have copies of floppy disks, but I
haven't used a floppy disk for many years, except for installing MSDOS,
which BTW is a perfectly legal copy.
Maybe the reason many people uses illegal copies isn't as criminal as it
seems...I think 50 dollars is still a lot of money for a game (that's the
price of almost all the games here in Holland), a game of which it is
always
the question wether you are going to like it or not...I bought many games
in
the past years which weren't worth there money at all, so I can imagine
people really get enough of paying money for something unexpectable. Then
they are easily persuaded to buy a five dollar copy of the game on school
or
at work, from a friend who has a CD-writer. It sounds weak, but it's
reality
and I'm sure you all know that. It's unrealistic to want everybody to be a
'plaster saint' where the seduction is so big....
I agree with you there. I've bought a lot of naff games, which I sadly can't
sell on again. There are many people in my school whose parents are complete
idiots, and will fork out lots of money so their darling can have CDR. You
can imagine my disgust when I found out that one of them was wanting to
borrow my games, copy them, and sell them on. Luckily I got wind of the plot
in time. And the person who was going to do it, wasn't very happy....
And is it, just as with CD's, not also the software industry to blame? I
think 25 dollars for an audio CD and 50 dollar for a PC-Game is very high
for young people. I know that with games this money is needed to cover the
costs of development, but if prices where lower, they would sell more.
Maybe
even such more, that the profit would be even higher. I think they will
also
have to lower prices in the future, because with the increase of bandwidth
on internet, it will be easier and easier to get illegal copies. A more
flexibel attitude of the software (and music) industry towards their
prices
would be very welcome and necessary to secure their existence in the
future.
Illegal games/warez will decrease as the price goes down, but this will not
happen, as any price reductions might make any profit negligible.
By the way, Transport Tycoon is an old game which is hardly nowhere sold
anymore. With the new Windows version, TTDLX and surely TTO became kind of
obsolete. Is it that bad then, that mr. Houde puts TTDLX (together with
another old game, Warcraft II) on the internet? I think it is at least not
enough reason to try to totally expel him from this newsgroup, by refusing
to answer him and by not so kindly asking him to get out.
Transport Tycoon Deluxe is undergoing major re-release across the world. Not
least as part of the Tycoon Collection. I bought it for £10 on budget label.
I hope I haven't called your wrath upon me...be merciful, I'm a worthy
catholic, protected by the Lord and by the Holy Ghost. I'm a model
student,
who tries always to make his homework and who tries to limit truancy to a
minimum, who never hits people without a reason, who brushes his teeths
every day in favor of the people around me..... But I had to have this
said.
There is no need to have lines of "be merciful" in posts! I'm not one to fly
off the handle (idiom?) and flame you for giving me your opinions. Freedom
of speech is something I believe in, and I sure enjoy a good debate, like we
are having now. I would much rather sit back, and talk about this civilised,
RATHER THAN SHOUTING AND SCREAMING AND FLAMING...ahem. Sorry about that ;-)

Eddie
-- Personal Site: http://www.ebernard.greatxscape.net
-- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Josef Drexler wrote
Paul Wright says...
cos he's just f*** advertised where to download it for free, i think
your
reply to fast josef

Well, he didn't do that in this message, and I didn't get the other one.
I wonder why. It's not really a spam. It didn't have the usual 4 numbers and
sdkfhklsdfjkljflskdfjklsdfjklsdfkls in the final line.

Eddie
-- Personal Site: http://www.ebernard.greatxscape.net
-- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Spider
I know this well but if this prevents C.S. from making a sequel to TT why
doesn't it prevent him from making RCT or any other game?
Good point. I would like to hear the reason as well.

--Spider--

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 16 Jan 2000 00:00
by Rijk
Eddie Bernard <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
85qvo3$pa...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
Rijk <familie.r...@wxs.nl> wrote

Why are you all so extremely anti-warez? It's not a secret almost all of
the
PC-gamers uses illegal copies....

I am anti-warez because of the effect on game prices. I'm not too happy
that
I'm having to pay £34.99 for the latest game. Warez only pushes that price
up. All my software, apart from the operating system, and other utilities
has been paid for out of my own money. Not an illegal copy in sight. If
you
want to count floppy disks, then yes I do have copies of floppy disks, but
I
haven't used a floppy disk for many years, except for installing MSDOS,
which BTW is a perfectly legal copy.
You have:
1 Rich parents / heritage from your grandmother
2 Just a few games
3 A lucrative job

How can you ever pay your own games, when you're 14 years old? (You are 14
yrs, aren't you?) Anyway, it's admirable that you hold on to your
principals.

(..........)
And is it, just as with CD's, not also the software industry to blame? I
think 25 dollars for an audio CD and 50 dollar for a PC-Game is very
high
for young people. I know that with games this money is needed to cover
the
costs of development, but if prices where lower, they would sell more.
Maybe
even such more, that the profit would be even higher. I think they will
also
have to lower prices in the future, because with the increase of
bandwidth
on internet, it will be easier and easier to get illegal copies. A more
flexibel attitude of the software (and music) industry towards their
prices
would be very welcome and necessary to secure their existence in the
future.

Illegal games/warez will decrease as the price goes down, but this will
not
happen, as any price reductions might make any profit negligible.
I don't agree. The production costs (that will say: the cost to press and
distribute the game) are very, very low. It are the developing costs which
are so extremely high. So, a lower price with more sales won't make the
profit neglible, since the high developing costs can be spread out over more
products. So as long as the turnover remains the same, the profit for the
company can remain the same, but then with more sales and lower prices.

The only problem is: will sales increase proportional or even progressive to
the decrease in price? I do think so. If I look at myself, at least, I do
think so. If all the games were 50% cheaper, I think I would buy more than
twice as many games as I do now, because I will waste less money when I
would buy a boring game and so I will be less scared to risk my money for
buying a game without knowing wether it's good or not.....do you get me?
Anyway, I would spend a higher total value on games, when prices would be
lower, and I think the whole society would spend more money on games when
prices would drop. So everybody happy: I have more games to a lower prices
and the softwarecompany's have more profit. (I hope you can follow me,
though I'm afraid It seems like I am talking nonsense...).

Illegal copying could be a stimulans to software companies to lower their
prices gradually, or finding more efficient ways of distributing their
products. That's why I think warez aren't as bad for us as it seems. It
keeps the software producers sharp, and so will their prices be.

(........)
I hope I haven't called your wrath upon me...be merciful, I'm a worthy
catholic, protected by the Lord and by the Holy Ghost. I'm a model
student,
who tries always to make his homework and who tries to limit truancy to
a
minimum, who never hits people without a reason, who brushes his teeths
every day in favor of the people around me..... But I had to have this
said.

There is no need to have lines of "be merciful" in posts! I'm not one to
fly
off the handle (idiom?) and flame you for giving me your opinions. Freedom
of speech is something I believe in, and I sure enjoy a good debate, like
we
are having now. I would much rather sit back, and talk about this
civilised,
RATHER THAN SHOUTING AND SCREAMING AND FLAMING...ahem. Sorry about that
;-)
You, and especially mr. Paul Wright sounded so aggressive towards the
warez-man... So I thought it would be wisely to be a bit..uh..modest in my
pro-warez reply...that's why I wrote this last paragraph...
Eddie
-- Personal Site: http://www.ebernard.greatxscape.net
-- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net
Alex R. (The Netherlands)

PS: A question arosen out of pure curiosity: when are you going to update
your TTDLX-site again?

Re: Ttdx sound effect problem

Posted: 16 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Rijk wrote
Eddie Bernard schreef in berichtnieuws

I am anti-warez because of the effect on game prices. I'm not too happy
that
I'm having to pay £34.99 for the latest game. Warez only pushes that
price
up. All my software, apart from the operating system, and other
utilities
has been paid for out of my own money. Not an illegal copy in sight. If
you
want to count floppy disks, then yes I do have copies of floppy disks,
but
I
haven't used a floppy disk for many years, except for installing MSDOS,
which BTW is a perfectly legal copy.

You have:
1 Rich parents / heritage from your grandmother
No
2 Just a few games
No. I have 30. Not all have been paid for by me though I must add. Some are
birthday presents, or christmas presents.
3 A lucrative job
No. I don't even have a job.
How can you ever pay your own games, when you're 14 years old? (You are 14
yrs, aren't you?) Anyway, it's admirable that you hold on to your
principals.
Yes I am 14 years old. I haven't bought a game in a long time, but over the
course of a couple of years I have saved up all of my pocket money/birthday
money/christmas money, stuck it in a bank, well building society to be
precise, and although the interest is fairly small, about £12 a year it is
better than nothing. I have £127 stashed at the moment. I use this when I
want to buy a game. However after some wasteful spending when I first opened
the account, I am a lot more cautious on what games to spend it on.
Illegal games/warez will decrease as the price goes down, but this will
not
happen, as any price reductions might make any profit negligible.

I don't agree. The production costs (that will say: the cost to press and
distribute the game) are very, very low. It are the developing costs which
are so extremely high. So, a lower price with more sales won't make the
profit neglible, since the high developing costs can be spread out over
more
products. So as long as the turnover remains the same, the profit for the
company can remain the same, but then with more sales and lower prices.
Perhaps for a game like TT. Only a few people worked on it. Whereas a game
like Tomb Raider, Resident Evil etc. which has hundreds of people working on
it, then they don't work for free you know. But, it doesn't work this way.
Everyone grossly inflates their prices.
The only problem is: will sales increase proportional or even progressive
to
the decrease in price? I do think so. If I look at myself, at least, I do
think so. If all the games were 50% cheaper, I think I would buy more than
twice as many games as I do now, because I will waste less money when I
would buy a boring game and so I will be less scared to risk my money for
buying a game without knowing wether it's good or not.....do you get me?
Anyway, I would spend a higher total value on games, when prices would be
lower, and I think the whole society would spend more money on games when
prices would drop. So everybody happy: I have more games to a lower prices
and the softwarecompany's have more profit. (I hope you can follow me,
though I'm afraid It seems like I am talking nonsense...).
I do follow you. And I understand what you mean. I've never heard this point
of view before. And it is also a very valid point you are saying. I also
agree that more games would be bought if the prices were cheaper. It's just
that as I said, the more people that work on the game, the higher the prices
could end up.
Illegal copying could be a stimulans to software companies to lower their
prices gradually, or finding more efficient ways of distributing their
products. That's why I think warez aren't as bad for us as it seems. It
keeps the software producers sharp, and so will their prices be.
There is perhaps some truth in this, but as yet, we see no evidence of
cheaper games because of warez.
There is no need to have lines of "be merciful" in posts! I'm not one to
fly
off the handle (idiom?) and flame you for giving me your opinions.
Freedom
of speech is something I believe in, and I sure enjoy a good debate,
like
we
are having now. I would much rather sit back, and talk about this
civilised,
RATHER THAN SHOUTING AND SCREAMING AND FLAMING...ahem. Sorry about that
;-)

You, and especially mr. Paul Wright sounded so aggressive towards the
warez-man... So I thought it would be wisely to be a bit..uh..modest in my
pro-warez reply...that's why I wrote this last paragraph...
Interesting. I apologise if I came across as aggressive. I have expressed my
views once before about anti-warez, especially of Transport Tycoon, for the
reason we have to suffer from what they do. However, I do believe that
Hasbro/Microprose should allow all of us original TTDLX users to upgrade to
the new version for free. It is not fair that we would have to go out and
buy the whole Tycoon Collection. I already have RCT, and TTD, and from what
I've heard about RR2, it is not worth buying. Maybe we should demand
Microprose/Hasbro make a patch to upgrade TTD
PS: A question arosen out of pure curiosity: when are you going to update
your TTDLX-site again?
It won't be this week I'm afraid. I don't have enough new content. If I am
going to update it, it will be minor changes, and probably won't be
announced in the mailing list.

Eddie
-- Personal Site: http://www.ebernard.greatxscape.net
-- Transport Tycoon World: http://www.ttworld.cjb.net

warez (was: Re: Ttdx sound effect problem)

Posted: 16 Jan 2000 00:00
by Peter J. Dobrovka
Rijk schrieb in Nachricht <85qsle$2djo...@reader2.wxs.nl>...
...
Why are you all so extremely anti-warez? It's not a secret almost all of
the
PC-gamers uses illegal copies....
Maybe. I do not. And the fact that it is common is no excuse.
Maybe the reason many people uses illegal copies isn't as criminal as it
seems...
To use an illegal copy is one thing. To multiply and distribute them is
another.
I think 50 dollars is still a lot of money for a game (that's the
price of almost all the games here in Holland), a game of which it is
always
the question wether you are going to like it or not...I bought many games
in
the past years which weren't worth there money at all, so I can imagine
people really get enough of paying money for something unexpectable.
There are good game magazines reporting about pros and cons. And there are
commonly demos in which you can test the game. It were demos that made me
buy Warcraft, Age of Empires, Imperialism and Transport Tycoon and Master of
Magic. And not to buy Railroad Tycoon 2, hehe.
Then
they are easily persuaded to buy a five dollar copy of the game on school
or
at work, from a friend who has a CD-writer. It sounds weak, but it's
reality
and I'm sure you all know that. It's unrealistic to want everybody to be a
'plaster saint' where the seduction is so big....
I can understand seduction very well, but I am also able to understand the
motivations of a children murderer without neccessarily liking it.
The copying and distributing of software hurts the ones who produced it.
They do not earn as much money as they would have. This you can see very
well in the case of unprotected (or easy to crack) software: Starcraft f.e.
sold not well - but everybody has it. Programs with good copy protection
sell better. This is fact, no discussion.
To have a certain game is not essential for your life. If you can't afford
it, then don't buy it. Maybe you could put together with your friends and
purchase an original owned by all.
Or you wait until the prices do lower. So do I. I think the same as you: the
price of $50 for a game is too much. But after few months the price is
reduced. If everybody would do this, this could be a sign to change pricing
politics. But although I did not spend $50 I still spent money. Money that
the software author receives and money that motivates him and the company to
go on producing software.
I am not a moral man, I am only thinking globally. I have no mercy for bad
software, they shall earn nothing if nobody buy it. But if we also do not
support the software we like then we shouldn't be surprised when software
gets worse and worse.
The biggest thing I ever have done is to violate the "license agreement" of
installing my software only on one computer. I think if I had paid for a CD
it is my own thing what I do with it inside my 4 walls.
3DTT is done with a legal original of Delphi 3.0. I could upgrade to Delphi
5.0 by warez but I don't. If I would need Delphi 5.0 I would buy it. I don't
need it, so I also do not download it.
And is it, just as with CD's, not also the software industry to blame? I
think 25 dollars for an audio CD and 50 dollar for a PC-Game is very high
for young people. I know that with games this money is needed to cover the
costs of development, but if prices where lower, they would sell more.
No. This theory is wrong. Prices would have to be very low to make this
effect happen. We are not talking about essential things for life. We are
talking about greedyness. Of course we ALL have the money to buy games. But
why should we spend it if we get the software for free or nearly for free?
It is only a question of copy protection. Well-protected games sell better.
If you have no choice, suddenly you have enough money, what a surprise!
Maybe
even such more, that the profit would be even higher. I think they will
also
have to lower prices in the future, because with the increase of bandwidth
on internet, it will be easier and easier to get illegal copies. A more
flexibel attitude of the software (and music) industry towards their prices
would be very welcome and necessary to secure their existence in the
future.
If you do not want to spent so much money then do not spend it.
Stealing a Rolls Royce because it is too expensive to buy is the same. You
don't need it for life and happyness. If you wait a bit the prices will go
down. Why do you have to possess the game from the first day on?
By the way, Transport Tycoon is an old game which is hardly nowhere sold
anymore. With the new Windows version, TTDLX and surely TTO became
kind of
obsolete.
No, because I owe TT I have no intention to purchase the new Windows
version. If it would have an improvement in gameplay, I would buy it. This
way I demonstrate that THIS software it not of worth to me.
And I think other people think similar. If they can have TTDX for free why
purchase the Windows version?
Is it that bad then, that mr. Houde puts TTDLX (together with
another old game, Warcraft II) on the internet?
This is even more bad, because he has no profit to do this, he only damages
the profit of other people. This is not acceptable.
I think it is at least not
enough reason to try to totally expel him from this newsgroup, by refusing
to answer him and by not so kindly asking him to get out.
I think it is a very good reason and everybody should do so. I support
flaming and refusing him until he doesn't show insight (is it the right
word? I simply translated the German "Einsicht"). Should we, who did pay for
our copies welcome him just as we would not know that this kind of crime
affects ourselves in long terms, too?
I hope I haven't called your wrath upon me...be merciful, I'm a worthy
catholic, protected by the Lord and by the Holy Ghost. I'm a model student,
who tries always to make his homework and who tries to limit truancy to a
minimum, who never hits people without a reason, who brushes his teeths
every day in favor of the people around me..... But I had to have this
said.

Until you do not produce and spread illegal copies you may have any opinion
you like.

Peter
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