Posted: 06 Mar 2005 19:28
I thought it was 3-2 in favour of no? Not that it matters, we'll still have to poll anyway.
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I think it was you and me who voted NO, and the other three voted YES. But if you sumurized it as 3-2 for no I might have mistaken it for 3-2 for Yes, as I might have asumed that you began with yes. Anyway..ChrisCF wrote:I thought it was 3-2 in favour of no? Not that it matters, we'll still have to poll anyway.
I'm very much in favour of Dave Worley's suggestion, and then especially the 1-2-B3 option. A3 and A4 just take to long. Another thing we have to realise it that all land not owned bu local authorities belongs to the regional authority (according to the DD). In that light I don't see why we should differ between local and regional authority road laying.Local authorities construct roads for public use. These roads have a maximum attainable speed of 105 km/h for buses and 90 km/h for trucks.
Transport companies can also lay their own roads as long as their approval rating is fair. Roads constructed by transport companies have no speed limit and are only accessible by road vehicles of the company that laid the road.
Hyronymus: unable to find confirmation on this
Aaron: I don’t agree with this system of unlimited speed.
By default roads have two lanes per tile, one lane for each direction and require twice the right-of-way of rails. Single-lane roads are possible and require half the right-of-way of default roads. Single-lane roads are one-way roads by default.
Hyronymus: only true if rails do not have two tracks per tile; what about double-lane one-way roads
Intersections
Roads can intersect, even at a 90° angle. Up to 6 pieces of tarmac can be laid on a single tile. Roundabouts will be created if too many stripes of tarmac will be laid.
Hyronymus: unable to find confirmation on this
Aaron: Roundabouts? Lets start with motorway on-ramps/traffic lights/unregulated intersections/give way/stop sign and roundabouts. There are many possibilities
Motorways
Motorways are roads that have two lanes, each for a different direction.
Hyronymus: are four lanes meant: two in each direction
Motorways are built like roads but have some restrictions:
- motorways allow only two parts of the road on a single tile
Hyronymus: as in one travel direction occupies one tile
- 90° angles are impossible
- motorways require level crossings with any other track type
The maximum attainable speed on motorways is 120 km/h for busses and 100 km/h for trucks. Motorways constructeld by transport companies have no speed limit.
Hyronymus: unable to find confirmation on this
Hyronymus: no speed limits on roads/motorways constructed by companies make things difficult and company-constructed roads fall under a local or regional authorities’ jurisdiction; not allowing competitor’s vehicles on company-constructed roads results in TTD silliness: miles of road overkill, TTDPatch/OpenTTD and chapter 12 provide a better solution
A perfect supplement if you ask me .Dave Worley wrote:Well, following some discussion on IRC and reading the DD, I've made a couple of edits to the system...
1. The waiting period is eliminated, thus the decision is instantaneous, sort of like demolishing a building on TTD. But you'd still get a better pop up than "blah blah town refuses to allow this".
2. You could request different types of road, maybe from single lane to full on Motorway road types.
That's all for now. Discuss.
Oh yes. I like the tollbooth idea for sure!XeryusTC wrote:What about allowing the user to specify a wait time, with the default being 0 ofcourse. This can make the game a bit harder for those who want it.
For all the other things, I totally agree, suggest the building to the towns, let them decide on it and fund a part of the building. We only need to decide how much of the construction you fund and how much is funded by the towns.
And maybe people can put toll booths on their funded road when they've funded more than x% of the cost of the road and the building has costed more than y money. This way they can get a bit of money back from other companies/virtual traffic.
So virtual traffic is the way forward. Of course the amount of traffic between two cities could be defined by size of the two cities.XeryusTC wrote:It might look cool, but it would be very anoying when you want to select one of your RVs, you'll have to find it between all the other traffic on the road. Another thing is that it will eat loads of FPS because there are loads of models to render (can be solved by disabling though).
I keep hammering on the need to stay ON TOPIC, M4rek. The topic is road construction, please stick to it. You have no idea of the agony I already have in reading through topics that ended OT or clueless.M4rek wrote:can we have traffic actually going round? that would be cool...
That is already the default way of constructing track/stations. It was mentioned at the meeting yesterday too.M4rek wrote:could we have it so that once the highway is approved, construction commences visually with road works and all that and is gradually built. construction time varies between distances, types of road, and funding levels.
This means that two crossing motorways may not need level crossings. Is this the intention?Hyronymus wrote:Currently the Design Documents mentions this (red is my personal commenting):[...][...]
- motorways require level crossings with any other track type
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