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spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 06 Dec 2004 07:58

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ttdx_artist · Post by **ttdx_artist** » 06 Dec 2004 08:35

Purno: i think it is very unfair saying that N Scale is better than HO, that is just your opinion... i personally prefer HO because it has more detail, train running is smoother and more realistic, you can shunt HO easier than N... and the market is far bigger for HO than anything else, and there is also money to be made in HO with making masters for casting, eg. The car transporters on the previous page only took 1 week to make masters for, and i made $1500 (AUD) and i recieved 15 kits (valued at $35 each) for free.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 06 Dec 2004 12:18

ttdx_artist wrote:Purno: i think it is very unfair saying that N Scale is better than HO, that is just your opinion...

I agree

i personally prefer HO because it has more detail,

IMO N is detailed enough

train running is smoother and more realistic, you can shunt HO easier than N...

that might be true, didn't test it

and the market is far bigger for HO than anything else,

You can only use a part of the assortment of the trains, since for example fleischmann and märklin both have a different coupling system for rails and cars.

Daan Timmer · Post by **Daan Timmer** » 06 Dec 2004 12:31

Purno wrote:
ttdx_artist wrote:Purno: i think it is very unfair saying that N Scale is better than HO, that is just your opinion...
I agree

i personally prefer HO because it has more detail,
IMO N is detailed enough

train running is smoother and more realistic, you can shunt HO easier than N...
that might be true, didn't test it

and the market is far bigger for HO than anything else,
You can only use a part of the assortment of the trains, since for example fleischmann and märklin both have a different coupling system for rails and cars.

I do not agree with the last thing you said purno. As nowadays. couplings can be changed. You just buy a set of the couplings you want (E.G. standard marklin couplings) and just replace the fleishmans with the marklin versions. done.... as the connectors for the couplings are standard (AFAIK)

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 06 Dec 2004 12:37

OT: (poll) I'd add a "I don't do model trains" option, if these people wanted to see the results.

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 06 Dec 2004 12:54

theres apparently also "G" Scale that some manufacturers produce..

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 06 Dec 2004 13:04

DaaNtje wrote:...

Well ok, but anyways, the biggest advantage of scale N is the space. Because it's only half the size of H0, it takes 4 times less space. That's easier when designing layouts. Note that your arm can only reach 80 cm (officially). In H0 the radius of a circle is +/- 1 meter, while in N it's only 50 cm.

On a platform of 1 x 2 meters you can only build an oval in H0, but you can actually design a nice (double tracked) layout in N scale.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 06 Dec 2004 14:21

N scale sounds too cheesy too me. Too small. I want to see a smallest details in the models I have, and I can.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 06 Dec 2004 14:58

IMO, N scale is detailed enough. It's a nice size, IMO, H0 is too big.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 06 Dec 2004 15:01

IMHO, HO is too small.

The Fjonis · Post by **The Fjonis** » 06 Dec 2004 15:46

ttdx_artist; that looks great!!

I built a small system like 5 years ago; its 1,2 x 2 metres only, so it goes without saying that there wasn't room for too much.. It's a märklin HO-scale with 2 locos on it; both steam. The entire thing is very simple indeed; the track is built directly on green felt. In the centre, there is a mountain. I built it using old empty cardboard boxes and stuff which I "flattened out" using pieces of cardboard. These I then covered with old newspaper-pages soaked in wallpaper glue. Finally, I made a mixture of sand (!) and more wallpaper glue, and I used this as well as grey stopper to cover the newspaper. On top, I used this ordinary green "grass"-stuff. Voilà; the cheapest landscape ever! It doesn't look to bad, either - considering the budget..

Here's a rough sketch:

1 = a tunnel which goes through the mountain.
2 = main station
3 = side-track with engine shed

I have a sawmill, a little village, a factory and some other stuff..

I'm planning to tear it all apart and build a larger and more sophisticated system, but I don't have the time, the money or the space to do it - yet.

s78ucr · Post by **s78ucr** » 06 Dec 2004 19:18

As said here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=3867&start=80 my OO layout has ceased to exist.
i think i'll move over to N, although that means ordering via internet

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 06 Dec 2004 19:38

depend on the size of your room, but HO-N are all suitable, bigger ones are good only for milionares or garden railway. Here in the Czech rep. most of the people do HO or TT, because only a minimum of czech engines is manufactured, and so most of the models must be hand-made, and N scale is too small for making them in hand.

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 06 Dec 2004 20:40

Born Acorn wrote:IMHO, HO is too small.

Buy Märklin MAX1 gauge ;P, or G Gauge that some manufacturers produce.

mp3Pro · Post by **mp3Pro** » 06 Dec 2004 22:08

Born Acorn wrote:IMHO, HO is too small.

Ive seriously been considering N scale you can build a nice layout on an 18 x 36 inch shelf

Archonix · Post by **Archonix** » 06 Dec 2004 23:19

N fits in a small space, this is true, and that's what makes it attractive for a lot of people. However, the best use of N is fitting it in to a large space. With N you can do relatively realistic train lengths and good long runs in an 8 x 12 room, whereas with HO/OO you'd have to squeeze everything down to make it fit.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 07 Dec 2004 00:20

I still have some BR stock lying around in boxes, as well as enough track to build an 8' by 4' board w/ layout, but the board used has been pressed into service as a games table (for Games Workshop).

I wouldn't mind doing an N scale layout though, perhaps DB Style? I really love HO/OO scale, as that will always be my favorite, but it's just the space issue again... I do have the space for a HO/OO layout, but thats under the house, and there is so much dust down there that it isn't even funny

. Kinda plays havoc with track and electronics...

ttdx_artist · Post by **ttdx_artist** » 07 Dec 2004 00:38

purno: i agree on the space saving theory,i don't have my own layout as of yet, so i use a model railway club layout, which is fairly big, the photos i took of trains were on that layout, it has 2 main line stations with 5 smaller main line stations in between, it has 2 branch lines each with about 2-3 industries and stations, it is in a room 30' by 50' and each station has 10' loops (i would've prefered 15'), the tightest main line curves are 3' radius and the steepest main line hill is 1in40... i may have to travel 70km to run my trains, but this works for me until i get my own layout

and i personally hate continuous running style layouts ( 'O' shape) i prefer point to point style where you run from one station to the next, then turn around and go back, just like in reality, shunting is the most fun

Akalamanaia: G scale is just O scale, G stands for garden.

DaaNtje and Punro: Coupers can be a problem, sometimes, but i never buy a "ready to run" train, and run it straight away, most of the "ready to run" market is aimed towards 5 year olds with a trainset to run on the floor of their living room, the first thing i do with all of these vehicles is change A: bogies, B: wheels, C: couplers, D: add three point suspension to limit the amount of "side to side roll" of the vehicle, and E: put a strip of lead in the floor to balance the vehicle... the lighter your train, the better the chance of derailing when crossing points or turning.

if anyone wants to know about 3 point suspension, just ask me, it will solve A LOT of your problems

mp3Pro · Post by **mp3Pro** » 07 Dec 2004 01:25

1.5x5 foot Nscale layout

I kinda liked this 3x6 foot point to point.. looks like theres a little room for expansion as well

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 07 Dec 2004 01:33

I kinda like the 1.5x5 one myself, although I would remove the siding going from SW to NE - just doesn't make much sense

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