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Map Creator (development stopped)

Posted: 27 Sep 2004 18:44
by Mek
I don't want to hijack other people's thread, so i thought i start my own thread, with my own Locomotion Map Creator. It can be downloaded here.
In order to use it, you also need a donor scenario; a scenario without any towns/industries. You can download one from here, or create your own one.

I think I shouln't be explaining why i used Java, but i can already here certain people complaining, so i thougt i'd explain it anyway. Actualy it is quite simple, i'm using Java because:
- it's portable. I only have Linux on my computers, so it's bad enough having to run an emulator to play locomotion, i don't want to run an emulator to create/test my own programs.
- It's easy to make GUI's. It's true it isn't very difficult to create portable programs in for example C, but it is however very difficult to make portable programs with a nice GUI...
- It's very easy extendable. You can change parts of the without having to recompile anything, just plug in the new classes, and everything still works perfectly.
I don't want to start a flamewar... I just don't want to here comments on my choice of programming language.

Posted: 27 Sep 2004 18:50
by jules
Erm appart form the fact that i have no idea how to run this :-D, is it possible to put more of the files into a subdirectory, just makes a rather messy folder.....

Posted: 27 Sep 2004 18:53
by Mek
jules wrote:Erm appart form the fact that i have no idea how to run this :-D, is it possible to put more of the files into a subdirectory, just makes a rather messy folder.....
You should not decompress the jar file... If you have a proper java setup, you could just start the jar file... If not, you have to start "java -jar MapCreator.jar" (or perhaps javaw, i'm not too sure about that..)

Posted: 27 Sep 2004 19:19
by Steve
Moved because it has A LOT more to do with scenarios that Graphics and Modding of Loco.

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 02:26
by TheDaian
i've tried running this program every way possible (running from the windows command line thing, opening with mozilla, ect...) perhaps you could compile it into a much more easy to use .exe?

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 02:28
by ChrisCF
Strange. I got it running in one attempt. Did you actually read any of this thread?

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 03:32
by ChrisCF
I fed it the attached donor scenario (slightly customised object set) and map image, and got an access violation + crash-to-desktop while trying to load the landscape. No towns, no roads, no industries.

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 08:00
by jules
ChrisCF wrote:Strange. I got it running in one attempt. Did you actually read any of this thread?
Dude take a chill pill, it wont open if you have winace installed as it just opens it as a shortcut, and i can get "java -jar MapCreator.jar" or javaw to work.

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 09:29
by ampz
You probably need to install java.

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 11:01
by Mek
ChrisCF wrote:I fed it the attached donor scenario (slightly customised object set) and map image, and got an access violation + crash-to-desktop while trying to load the landscape. No towns, no roads, no industries.
This is weird... I don't have any idea what could be causing this.. but i will investigate it; There must be something 'wrong' with the donor file, but what it is i don't know... However later this week i will release a new version, where you can also choose three built in donor files, one for each region. This way it shouldn't be necesairy to use your own donor files....

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 14:04
by Mek
Just uploaded a new version. This version has 3 build in donor files, one for each region. So there's no more need for external donor files;
Also i've added some progressbars to this version, and a much more advanced image resizing/sampling algorithm, so maps from smaller images should look a lot smoother.[/url]

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 15:35
by TheDaian
ChrisCF wrote:Strange. I got it running in one attempt. Did you actually read any of this thread?
i have read the thread to it's fullest, and even tried reading between the thread, under the thread, over the thread, and of course, outside and inside the thread.

i am running windows XP pro, with SP1 installed. i have not specificly installed java on this machine, which brings me to my next point.
ampz wrote:You probably need to install java.
that is probably the case. would anyone be willing to inform me about which java i should install? a quick look at http://java.sun.com provides seeminly 50 different download files.

i have no problem with people developing a useful program in java, but you have to know your audience. not everyone who wants to use this is running a java server on thier machine. again, making an .exe file out of it would be very useful for those of us who can't run a .jar file, and are too lazy to figure out how.

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 15:39
by orudge
I've stickied this, I think it would be better here.

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 17:17
by ChrisCF
TheDaian wrote:again, making an .exe file out of it would be very useful for those of us who can't run a .jar file, and are too lazy to figure out how.
That would entirely defeat the point of using Java :roll:

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 19:01
by ampz
TheDaian wrote:i have no problem with people developing a useful program in java, but you have to know your audience. not everyone who wants to use this is running a java server on thier machine. again, making an .exe file out of it would be very useful for those of us who can't run a .jar file, and are too lazy to figure out how.
There is a .exe available.
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=10713

orudge: May I ask why only one out of the two scenario generators got the honor of a sticky?

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 20:31
by kiop
that is probably the case. would anyone be willing to inform me about which java i should install? a quick look at http://java.sun.com provides seeminly 50 different download files.

A excelent freeware for execute MapCreator.jar under Windows XP ...

JavaEXE

(for runtime Java) i use this of sun.com :

JRE JAVA

Posted: 29 Sep 2004 02:05
by Dan
Can someone please make an exe, I looked 2 hours trying finding a working download location.(the sun download doesn't work) I tried getting it working for 2 hours with no avail, I used to have a really old version that worked well but it got deleted(it was not a java 2)

Posted: 29 Sep 2004 03:14
by ChrisCF
Dan wrote:(the sun download doesn't work)
Really? You mean the said same one I'm running on three computers over two operating systems? :roll:

I'm not trying to be funny here, but ffs get a clue.

Posted: 29 Sep 2004 13:39
by orudge
ampz wrote:orudge: May I ask why only one out of the two scenario generators got the honor of a sticky?
Because I didn't notice the other one. Both are stickied now. ;)

Posted: 29 Sep 2004 22:20
by Dan
ChrisCF wrote:
Dan wrote:(the sun download doesn't work)
Really? You mean the said same one I'm running on three computers over two operating systems? :roll:

I'm not trying to be funny here, but ffs get a clue.
It says to right click to download if I use internet explorer and select "save target as" but when I right click, save target is not an option(greyed out), I had to find it somewhere else.
EDIT: apperently the install put the program in the wrong folder so I moved it and it works! :D

PS: ChrisCF that was not very nice