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Posted: **30 Mar 2023 16:25**

ROAD STOPS & WAYPOINTS 3
- added new stations from Greyfur, Quast65, Andrew350, GarryG and me
- added new road waypoints - tolls, road signs, footbridges, sound walls, trees, lamps, tunnels etc.
- added road stops for suspension monorails
- added object category Road Stops Additions
- reorganized catergories between lorry and bus stations

Posted: **30 Mar 2023 18:37**

fridaemon wrote: 30 Mar 2023 16:25 ROAD STOPS & WAYPOINTS 3
- added new stations from Greyfur, Quast65, GarryG and me
- added new road waypoints - tolls, road signs, footbridges, sound walls, trees, lamps, tunnels etc.
- added road stops for suspension monorails
- added object category Road Stops Additions
- reorganized catergories between lorry and bus stations

I can't seem to see the updated waypoints, only the waypoints from the previous release are available.

Posted: **30 Mar 2023 18:45**

RoyalExamination9410 wrote: 30 Mar 2023 18:37 I can't seem to see the updated waypoints, only the waypoints from the previous release are available.

I sent you grf file with name busstops.grf. Delete it and replace with new one roadstopsandwaypoints.grf. I think It could help.

Or - do you use JGR version 0.52.x?

Posted: **01 Apr 2023 16:31**

Hello. Would it be possible to achieve the accessibility of stops by date? It's a little weird when modern stops are accessible as early as 1750. But that's just cosmetic, and I can choose a more suitable one myself that...
If the implementation would take too much time, don't say so

Posted: **01 Apr 2023 17:47**

Argus wrote: 01 Apr 2023 16:31

I don't do it with objects and I'm not gonna do that with this road stops, sorry

Everyone can choose when is the right time

Posted: **01 Apr 2023 19:41**

You're right, after all, I wrote it myself

Maybe it's better that way.

Posted: **01 Apr 2023 22:46**

I very much dislike "time restricted" objects, stations and buildings. None of these are individually important in the game (unlike vehicles and industries), authors should allow players to be free with them.

Posted: **02 Apr 2023 17:09**

I agree

Posted: **02 Apr 2023 18:38**

kamnet wrote: 01 Apr 2023 22:46 I very much dislike "time restricted" objects, stations and buildings. None of these are individually important in the game (unlike vehicles and industries), authors should allow players to be free with them.

In a private game, I'll agree with you in ca.80%, especially when the add-on doesn't have an option to disable this restriction. But in online games it realy makes sense. Keeps the appearance of the map reasonable and as expected. Otherwise, modern glass skyscrapers, built in 1800 by a reckless player, will look strange. Therefore, this restriction would make sense.

Also, I'd like to point out that all of your (great!) add-ons have no version designation (the exception is the station set).

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With the view of older versions turned on (which is sometimes necessary), it is not known which version of your add-ons is the latest and which is the oldest. Usually it's the one at the bottom, but it's not the rule. Memorizing all the exceptions in a list that has more than 1,500 items is no fun. Many authors make this mistake, but it's just a nuisance and makes the entire add-on list look horribly chaotic. Maybe one day the devs will sort it out like they did with the tags on the online contents, but if they do, it won't happen anytime soon. So please use some versioning method (v001, 1.0.1, 1.0a, ...) and stick to it for next release.

Posted: **02 Apr 2023 19:37**

And that's why I always look at the add-on info on the right to make sure.

Posted: **02 Apr 2023 20:30**

LaChupacabra wrote: 02 Apr 2023 18:38
kamnet wrote: 01 Apr 2023 22:46 I very much dislike "time restricted" objects, stations and buildings. None of these are individually important in the game (unlike vehicles and industries), authors should allow players to be free with them.
In a private game, I'll agree with you in ca.80%, especially when the add-on doesn't have an option to disable this restriction. But in online games it realy makes sense. Keeps the appearance of the map reasonable and as expected. Otherwise, modern glass skyscrapers, built in 1800 by a reckless player, will look strange. Therefore, this restriction would make sense.

Also, I'd like to point out that all of your (great!) add-ons have no version designation (the exception is the station set).
lack of version info.png
With the view of older versions turned on (which is sometimes necessary), it is not known which version of your add-ons is the latest and which is the oldest. Usually it's the one at the bottom, but it's not the rule. Memorizing all the exceptions in a list that has more than 1,500 items is no fun. Many authors make this mistake, but it's just a nuisance and makes the entire add-on list look horribly chaotic. Maybe one day the devs will sort it out like they did with the tags on the online contents, but if they do, it won't happen anytime soon. So please use some versioning method (v001, 1.0.1, 1.0a, ...) and stick to it for next release.

You have to rewrite or replace previous File if you download it from forum. I Don't have this problem and I check much more updates than you

it's your mess

Posted: **02 Apr 2023 21:02**

kamnet wrote: 01 Apr 2023 22:46 I very much dislike "time restricted" objects, stations and buildings. None of these are individually important in the game (unlike vehicles and industries), authors should allow players to be free with them.

I agree .. but also agree what some players like being a bit more realistic.

Wonder if they could be displayed in the Object Selection Menu the year objects become available.
At the bottom of this menu is displayed the type of house.

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Station Masters House.

What if the coder knows the year that building became available he could display it as
Station Master House 1920

Then that should satisfy all players if want to build early or at the correct year.

Posted: **02 Apr 2023 22:53**

kamnet wrote: 01 Apr 2023 22:46 I very much dislike "time restricted" objects, stations and buildings. ...

Time restrictions are part of the game, they make things more interesting.

GarryG wrote: 02 Apr 2023 21:02 Wonder if they could be displayed in the Object Selection Menu the year objects become available. ...

You can (have to) do that yourself using callback '15C Show additional text in building window'.

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Posted: **02 Apr 2023 23:08**

OzTrans wrote: 02 Apr 2023 22:53 You can (have to) do that yourself using callback '15C Show additional text in building window'.

Yep .. it something us coders might concider doing. Be good idea if we know when some objects was actually built in real.
I going to start doing it to my sets.

Cheers

Posted: **03 Apr 2023 10:39**

Sorry for being offtopic and that the release of this fantastic GRF (Fridaemon

) sparks a debate about availability in certain times.
If this needs to be discussed more, lets then please open a new thread.

GarryG wrote: 02 Apr 2023 23:08
callback '15C Show additional text in building window'.
I going to start doing it to my sets.

Be aware, that this may take up extra Object-IDs!!!
EDIT:
Each additional text uses a TEXTid, of those you can also only have 255 in a GRF
If you use 4 (for each view) per object, you run out of your 255 per GRF really quick!
I choose to not use that feature (or use it very scarcely) because of that in my GRFs
EDIT2:
Above was an incorrect assumption, See below

Posted: **03 Apr 2023 13:39**

OzTrans wrote: 02 Apr 2023 22:53
kamnet wrote: 01 Apr 2023 22:46 I very much dislike "time restricted" objects, stations and buildings. ...
Time restrictions are part of the game, they make things more interesting.

Its not for everyone thou. I personaly dont like it at all, since you can always chose the ones you want or these which does fit your time period and still have available other ones.

Posted: **03 Apr 2023 22:52**

fridaemon wrote: 30 Mar 2023 18:45
RoyalExamination9410 wrote: 30 Mar 2023 18:37 I can't seem to see the updated waypoints, only the waypoints from the previous release are available.
I sent you grf file with name busstops.grf. Delete it and replace with new one roadstopsandwaypoints.grf. I think It could help.

Or - do you use JGR version 0.52.x?

Turns out I haven't updated mine to 0.52 yet, how do I do that? I'm still on 0.47

Posted: **03 Apr 2023 23:25**

Quast65 wrote: 03 Apr 2023 10:39 Each additional text uses a TEXTid, of those you can also only have 255 in a GRF
If you use 4 (for each view) per object, you run out of your 255 per GRF really quick!
I choose to not use that feature (or use it very scarcely) because of that in my GRFs

Just to get a few facts straight ...

These text strings are defined in the D0xx-Range; each GRF can have up to 1,024 of them [0xD000 - 0xD3FF]. You only need ONE per Object, not per View. You can also use the same string [TextID] for multiple objects, if the text is the same.

I use them a lot and have never run out of them ...

RoyalExamination9410 wrote: 03 Apr 2023 22:52 Turns out I haven't updated mine to 0.52 yet, how do I do that? I'm still on 0.47

1) Download the, relevant to your system, patch-pack from here.
2) UnZip the lot, make sure you maintain the folder structure.
3) Make a copy of your current version (just in case).
4) Copy the lot on top of your current version. There are about 130 files; make sure they go into the right folders.

Posted: **04 Apr 2023 08:59**

OzTrans wrote: 03 Apr 2023 23:25 These text strings are defined in the D0xx-Range; each GRF can have up to 1,024 of them [0xD000 - 0xD3FF]. You only need ONE per Object, not per View. You can also use the same string [TextID] for multiple objects, if the text is the same.

So, if you have this one:

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04 0F FF 01 FF D0 98 "This is D0FF" 00

You can just continue with:

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04 0F FF 01 00 D1 98 "This is D100" 00

?

And in NML, you can just keep on going and you will get a warning when you reach the 1024th string?

Posted: **04 Apr 2023 15:59**

A minor error crept in
At the second stop, facing east - west, this error will not appear.
It is a station from AUZStations

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