REQUEST to artists: Ship lift sprites

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 30 Jan 2004 01:50

The graphics are not their final versions, I'm sure.

spaceman-spiff · Post by **spaceman-spiff** » 30 Jan 2004 03:23

Looks great

George · Post by **George** » 30 Jan 2004 06:27

eis_os wrote:3 tiles shiplift place routine starts working today:

Can you work with PSD files?

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 30 Jan 2004 08:45

@George:
I should load them fine into my graphic app if you don't use vector layers.

Here some stats, but I think you know them:

We have 4 possible shiplifts, (4 cliff directions).
Each shiplift needs 3 tiles.
Each tile needs 3 sprites:
Groundsprite
Behind part
Front part

I don't know if I add shiplift groundsprites for the extra parts,
because in general the normal water is right. Any comment on that?

If we say we give all tiles groundsprites it means:
4 * 3 * 3 = 36 Sprites.

+ 4 * dike Sprites.
==========
40 Sprites

George · Post by **George** » 30 Jan 2004 12:59

eis_os wrote:@George:
I should load them fine into my graphic app if you don't use vector layers.

I don't

eis_os wrote:Here some stats, but I think you know them:
We have 4 possible shiplifts, (4 cliff directions).

Yes

eis_os wrote:Each shiplift needs 3 tiles.
Each tile needs 3 sprites:
Groundsprite
Behind part
Front part

Doors and a water inside dock, that moves up and down

eis_os wrote:I don't know if I add shiplift groundsprites for the extra parts, because in general the normal water is right. Any comment on that?

If we say we give all tiles groundsprites it means:
4 * 3 * 3 = 36 Sprites.

+ 4 * dike Sprites.
==========
40 Sprites

Not too much. I hope I shall draw them at the week end

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 30 Jan 2004 13:11

George wrote:
eis_os wrote:Each shiplift needs 3 tiles.
Each tile needs 3 sprites:
Groundsprite
Behind part
Front part
Doors and a water inside dock, that moves up and down

No, it's like a depot, you have a ground sprite (in fact currently a water tile),
a backpart thats behind the ship and a front part.

Because there is no possible solution to make collision detection work so that all ships doesn't stuck in a shiplift, there is no way to have doors, water up going down.

(and if you have to write 3D coordinates for all sprites, you know what 36 sprites are)

Chris 'Awkward' McKenna · Post by **Chris 'Awkward' McKenna** » 30 Jan 2004 23:20

is it not possible to make ships only enter the lift in one direction?
e.g. in plan view. = normal water < and > ship-lift.

Code: Select all

===>>>=====
     =<<<=

It wouldn be inefficient in real life (waste of water) and space consuming, but it would allow doors adn raising water.

Chris

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 31 Jan 2004 02:12

I can bet it is not possible to strict ships going 1 direction only

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 31 Jan 2004 08:32

Chris 'Awkward' McKenna wrote:is it not possible to make ships only enter the lift in one direction?
e.g. in plan view. = normal water < and > ship-lift.
Code: Select all
===>>>=====
     =<<<=
It wouldn be inefficient in real life (waste of water) and space consuming, but it would allow doors adn raising water.

Chris

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=129732#129732

In sumary doors aren't possible, one way aren't possible aswell...

Bart · Post by **Bart** » 31 Jan 2004 12:41

Ow darn, what is keeping Mr. Saywer to release his source ???

Chris 'Awkward' McKenna · Post by **Chris 'Awkward' McKenna** » 31 Jan 2004 12:52

would be possible to set ship lifts as destinations, like goto depot?

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 01 Feb 2004 20:03

Sprite routines and created 3D tables:

(And you see why I can't make experimental release until I am done, the other shiplift is saved with an old version)

edit:
To the current state: "I need to refix floating routines, and placing and movement and need to write a remove routine, and find the reason why shiplifts can't be build on water tiles..."

The shiplifts are normal tiles, as I said earlier = no order.

Endre · Post by **Endre** » 02 Feb 2004 16:33

Interesting...But the dikes look odd a bit...Maybe it'd be better if it'd look like the TTO rough land's little hump...(I don't have a pic of it, sadly.) It should be like...like dunes! That's the best simile I can find for that.

To draw something similar, simplified:

~~~~~^------------
water dike ground

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 02 Feb 2004 19:07

Feel free to draw ones

The template for the 4 four sprites should be 2 pages before...

( canalsprites_v01.png, top right)

Endre · Post by **Endre** » 03 Feb 2004 15:24

I'll try it, though there are 2 points against it
1) I'm not good at drawing (although it may work, since it's not so difficult)
2) I was planning some corrections in the toyland graphics...

But let's see! EDIT: no, can't do it...At least, not from that. Will try later.

George · Post by **George** » 04 Feb 2004 09:01

Some test

Prof. Frink · Post by **Prof. Frink** » 04 Feb 2004 09:05

I like the walls! not so sure about the lift, I'd have to see it in action to decide...
I think it's the yellow line along the bottom that spoils it.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 04 Feb 2004 09:34

looks great
some tips: walls at docks, walls at lift (when list begins walls disappear ... maybe continue it a bit there)

George · Post by **George** » 04 Feb 2004 13:48

SHADOW-XIII wrote:looks great
some tips: walls at docks, walls at lift (when list begins walls disappear ... maybe continue it a bit there)

I have described some glitches to Oskar, he said he will try to allow fixing them. I've made some graphics for that already

hovering teacup · Post by **hovering teacup** » 04 Feb 2004 16:15

sorry if this is a stupid question, but why should the river be edged by the special dike sprite, rather than raising the land around the water by one level ?

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