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Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 21 Oct 2007 09:55
by wallyweb
Not a bump ... Not a double post

A suggestion for the flatbed trucks
Change the default cargo from "livestock" to "wood".
"Why?" you may ask "You can refit it."
Because "articulated trucks" does not support refits for the trailer, and in game I have found that "wood" needs the extra capacity much more than 'livestock" does.

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 21 Oct 2007 22:00
by Zephyris
Are you using OpenTTD or TTDPatch?

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 21 Oct 2007 22:10
by wallyweb
Zephyris wrote:Are you using OpenTTD or TTDPatch?
TTDPatch at the moment. :)

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 21 Oct 2007 22:21
by Zephyris
I rarely use ttdpatch at the moment and not sure what the state of this is there, i know in openttd this problem was a bug which needed correction.... It may need patching in the patch itself, unless there is grf workaround...

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 21 Oct 2007 22:47
by wallyweb
Zephyris wrote:in openttd this problem was a bug which needed correction....
Were they able to correct it?
If so, there may be a way for the patch devs to work it out as well.

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Oct 2007 00:15
by Nite Owl
In OpenTTD (r11333 and probably prior to it) both parts of an articulated road vehicle in this set do refit to whatever cargo is chosen. I just double checked on this as I recently started a new game using this set but have yet to reach the era of articulated vehicles. I didn't want to be in for an unpleasant surprise when I did officially get there. How and by whom this was made to work is unknown to me. It may be best to check with the developers of both games to see what the differences are between them when it comes to the refitting of articulated vehicles of the type used in this set.

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Oct 2007 10:30
by Zephyris
The refitting problem was reported to the OpenTTD developers via bugspray, was viewed by them as a bug and corrected, I can't which developer/patcher did this but it was quickly accepted into trunk.

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Oct 2007 15:15
by wallyweb
Thanks Zephyris. Obviously a Patch problem so I've continued the discussion in the Articulated Road Vehicles thread. :D

PS ... I searched the bug spray and couldn't find the bug report. :?

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Oct 2007 16:00
by Zephyris
I had a search of bug spray too and couldnt find any of my articulated road vechicle bugs, mustve all been fixed and removed :)

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Oct 2007 16:20
by wallyweb
Zephyris wrote:I had a search of bug spray too and couldnt find any of my articulated road vechicle bugs, mustve all been fixed and removed :)
Strange ... you would think they would be merely closed as resolved but not deleted. :?

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Oct 2007 16:31
by FooBar
Looking for these?
http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1092
http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1120

Seems Maedhros fixed it, if I understand it correctly.

I queried for 'refit' with status 'closed' (link).

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Oct 2007 16:49
by wallyweb
Excellent and thank you FooBar. :D
Hopefully maedhros will get back to Lakie with some hints as to what was done.

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Nov 2007 19:32
by Zephyris
New version (see first post).
Includes all buses, trucks and trams and is "complete".

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Nov 2007 21:22
by wallyweb
Zephyris wrote:Includes all buses, trucks and trams and is "complete".
Nice work! 8)
I downloaded this latest (last?) version and did a cht: year 2049 just to see what will be available through a game ... I counted 14 buses, 52 trucks and 13 trams. Does this sound correct?

Now all we need is for a TTDPatch dev to resolve the refit issue for articulated RV trailers so that the trailers get the refit too. :wink:

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Nov 2007 21:45
by Zephyris
It should be:
15 buses
56 trucks
13 trams

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Nov 2007 22:15
by wallyweb
Yes ... I miscounted. :D

A silly question ... in your xls the truck and bus ID's are 0 to 70 ... I assume 00h to 46h ... is this correct? And are the trams consecutive after 70 (46h) or do they use another block of ID's?

I'm asking in case I run into future compatibility issues or questions. 8)

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 22 Nov 2007 22:43
by Zephyris
VehIDs used are:
Buses: 0-14
Trucks: 15-70
Trams: 71-83
Empty: 84-87
(decimal)

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 02:28
by athanasios
A small glitch under OpenTTD.

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 04:19
by Dave
Really nice work Zephyris, really really nice work :)

Re: Generic Road Vehicle Set [WIP]

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 16:49
by Axlrose
I believe I found a few bugs...