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Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 11 Dec 2020 18:46
by andythenorth
McZapkie wrote: 11 Dec 2020 15:44 Thus intermediate industry generation option between "no" and "all" would be very welcome :)
+1

I'm experimenting with probability in FIRS 4, reducing chance of certain industries building during gameplay.

It gets complicated if industry closure is also permitted. Probably no good way to deal with that.

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 12 Dec 2020 00:06
by Emperor Jake
I already said I have no idea how to code any of this stuff. XIS is little more than a new economy and identity for FIRS 3. Best I can do is wait for new features in the FIRS 4 release, after which they'll get implemented into XIS 2. Eventually. :twisted:

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 12 Dec 2020 00:56
by Wahazar
Emperor Jake wrote: 12 Dec 2020 00:06 I already said I have no idea how to code any of this stuff.
It is just

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prob_in_game:
industry parameter.

The real problem is, if it is easily to change by search/replace? Seems it is hardcoded in industry .py files, some have prob_in_game:3, some prob_in_game:10,
there should be variable instead, depending on settings.

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 13 Dec 2020 16:05
by Argus
The manganese mine provides no cargo, CZTR trains have paint as another load, apparently it bothers.

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 12:08
by Emperor Jake
Argus wrote: 13 Dec 2020 16:05 The manganese mine provides no cargo, CZTR trains have paint as another load, apparently it bothers.
Can you post a screenshot of the problem and your GRF list? I havent tested the CZ sets yet, it could be that one of them conflicts with industries, or the manganese cargo simply isn't supported yet.

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 14:19
by Argus
Graphics:
XiS, CZTR newgrfs, polroad, Squidatefish and AV9.8 and ECS houses. Manganese in firs is supported.
Is it possible to send a list of graphics without having to copy it for a long time?

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 14 Dec 2020 14:25
by Argus
I'm sending the game save straight away
And I also announced it in the CZTR topic

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 16 Dec 2020 14:06
by Emperor Jake
I've determined it's a conflict caused by CZTR Czech Trains. I don't know the inner workings of that set and how it would affect cargos at all (Perhaps a refit dummy cargo similar to the old NARS "regearing" but I couldn't see anything like that)

But yes, this discussion is better suited to the CZTR topic as it's their problem and it would affect any industry set that uses up enough cargo slots :)

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 27 Dec 2020 21:31
by Argus
XIS must be located under trains :)

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 27 Dec 2020 21:58
by andythenorth
Near the top of the nml you should find a block of incompatible industry checks, e.g search "STR_ERR_INCOMPATIBLE_SET"

You want to add this to the start of end of those checks

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    if (grf_future_status("\4D\49\02\09")) {
        error(FATAL, string(STR_ERR_INCOMPATIBLE_SET, "CZTR Engines-Diesel"));
    }
    if (grf_future_status("\4D\49\02\08")) {
        error(FATAL, string(STR_ERR_INCOMPATIBLE_SET, "CZTR Engines-Electric"));
    }
    if (grf_future_status("\4D\49\02\10")) {
        error(FATAL, string(STR_ERR_INCOMPATIBLE_SET, "CZTR Engines-EMU"));
    }
    if (grf_future_status("\4D\49\02\07")) {
        error(FATAL, string(STR_ERR_INCOMPATIBLE_SET, "CZTR Engines-Steam"));
    }

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 27 Dec 2020 22:38
by Argus
XIS cancels cztr trains if it is below them

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 23:57
by a11ce
What is the recommended start date (or by what year are all industries available)?

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 05 Jan 2021 15:01
by Argus
Don't plan to add vineyards?

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 13 Feb 2021 14:29
by rsdworker
i had loaded the FIRS and CHIPS in with this but its says fatal but there is link to readme but I cant access by using read me button within game

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 13 Feb 2021 15:59
by 2TallTyler
rsdworker wrote: 13 Feb 2021 14:29 i had loaded the FIRS and CHIPS in with this but its says fatal but there is link to readme but I cant access by using read me button within game
XIS is intended to be used instead of FIRS. You cannot load both in the same game. :)

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 20 Mar 2021 21:50
by JonKess
How do you get Vehicles for this Extreme Industry Set? When i start in 2020 i cant build any Tracks or Trains and cant transport Fish for example. When i start in 1900 i dont have any vehicles and cant build roads etc.. Where can i download or install the vehicles for this Extreme Industry Set?

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 20 Mar 2021 22:47
by dol422
JonKess wrote: 20 Mar 2021 21:50 How do you get Vehicles for this Extreme Industry Set? When i start in 2020 i cant build any Tracks or Trains and cant transport Fish for example. When i start in 1900 i dont have any vehicles and cant build roads etc.. Where can i download or install the vehicles for this Extreme Industry Set?
The default vehicles start from 1925 and do not support these cargos, you need to install separate vehicle NewGRFs :wink:

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 21 Mar 2021 05:33
by kamnet
JonKess wrote: 20 Mar 2021 21:50 How do you get Vehicles for this Extreme Industry Set? When i start in 2020 i cant build any Tracks or Trains and cant transport Fish for example. When i start in 1900 i dont have any vehicles and cant build roads etc.. Where can i download or install the vehicles for this Extreme Industry Set?
Anytime you use a NewGRF industry set, you will need to use NewGRF vehicle sets to support the cargoes.

If you like the default game vehicles, I suggest using OpenGFX+ Trains and OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles. There aren't really any NewGRFs comparable to the original aircraft and ships, but there are several sets of each you can try. Pretty much every NewGRF vehicle set will support every industry set cargo by default.

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 12:03
by 8608029714
Awesome!
I have updated the Chinese language for XIS.

Re: XIS - Extreme Industry Set

Posted: 19 Apr 2021 13:23
by Argus
Any progress?