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Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 13:58
by PikkaBird
OzTrans wrote:Currently, v1.4.0 is the highest maximum value possible
Does entering a custom value not work?
Other than that, the system should be fixed; i.e. 'Lower' ain't 'LowerAndEqual' than the value set.
IMO it makes more sense to say "this is the revision that broke compatibility" than "this is the revision before the revision that broke compatibility". But in that case, the description at least needs updating.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 14:51
by Transportman
Don Karnage wrote:If I have other GRF I have this following message : Fatal: GRF disable due to incompatible active graphic file(s) found.
The old version 1.1 have no problem with other GRF.
Guess that it is
this. Are you using a Non-Canadian NewGRF with ID 43 41 or an 1.1 version of a Canadian set next to 1.6?
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 14:58
by Mr Fox
No all the Canadians GRF are 1.6 and all are disable is I use them with other GRF. But if I use the 1.1 with other GRf I have no problem.
If I use the Canadians GRF 1.6 alone, they are working.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 16:24
by wallyweb
Don Karnage wrote:No all the Canadians GRF are 1.6 and all are disable is I use them with other GRF. But if I use the 1.1 with other GRf I have no problem.
If I use the Canadians GRF 1.6 alone, they are working.
There is an issue with "OpenGFX + Airports". There should be no problems with other GRFs. Can you post a list of your non-Canadian GRFs that you are trying to use?
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 16:33
by Mr Fox
Here it is. and I add a save game so you can see by yourself.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 16:43
by wallyweb
Don Karnage wrote:Here it is. and I add a save game so you can see by yourself.
I see all are green. Where are the conflicts (red)?
I do not have all those GRFs so it would be very difficult for me to test with your saved game.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 16:50
by Mr Fox
those are the 1.1, no conflict. I will replace them with the 1.6 and I will do a zip of those GRF so you can have all that I have. after that message.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 16:55
by wallyweb
Don Karnage wrote:those are the 1.1, no conflict. I will replace them with the 1.6 and I will do a zip of those GRF so you can have all that I have. after that message.
Sounds like a plan.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 17:43
by Mr Fox
I try to upload the rar, but it seem too big. I try to take only what I have use, but some are hidden in many files across the com.
If you have Skype I could send them to you? It wont work by email, just too big and the "dropbox" wont work for me.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 18:12
by OzTrans
Don Karnage wrote:If I have other GRF I have this following message : Fatal: GRF disable due to incompatible active graphic file(s) found. The old version 1.1 have no problem with other GRF.
But the new ones (v1.6) have a problem with the old ones (v1.1).
Don Karnage wrote:No all the Canadians GRF are 1.6 and all are disabled if I use them with other GRF. ...
All Canadian graphic files are available as v1.6. Earlier versions are no longer recommended, they may still work, but then they may not.
... If I use the Canadians GRF 1.6 alone, they are working.
That is the idea.
As wallyweb mentioned, at present, the only non-Canadian GRF that could give you problems is OpenGfx Airports. Should that be the case, there is an updated version (Canadian (OG) Airports v0.4.2) available on request.
I suggest you
replace all Canadian graphic files that you use with the v1.6 equivalents and enjoy a problem free gaming experience.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 18:56
by Mr Fox
I don't use OpenGfx Airports. What is that Canadian airport that you talk about?
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 19:18
by wallyweb
Don Karnage wrote:those are the 1.1, no conflict. I will replace them with the 1.6 and I will do a zip of those GRF so you can have all that I have. after that message.
Simplest is to post a png image as you did before, but this one to include the Canadian v1.6 files.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 21:05
by Mr Fox
that should be it.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 21:45
by wallyweb
Don Karnage wrote:that should be it.
The second png is what I was looking for.
What you need to do is starting with the first green GRF, disable (make red) or remove each in turn, until the Canadian GRFs turn green.
That will let us see which GRF is in conflict. Let me know the name of that file.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 19 Jun 2014 22:05
by Mr Fox
Ok, I will check and give you the info.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 20 Jun 2014 04:47
by OzTrans
Code: Select all
4341121E C282031D926851308417966399E966CF Iron Horse iron-horse alpha-5
That one is the culprit ... this is a very young GRF, where its author has chosen to conflict with Canadian graphics file ... no further comment ...
Don Karnage wrote:I don't use OpenGfx Airports. What is that Canadian airport that you talk about?
If you don't use OpenGfx Airports, then you won't be interested in Canadian (OG) Airports as both are the same, except the latter has been made compatible with Canadian graphic files.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 20 Jun 2014 07:46
by V453000 :)
The real story is just that OzTrans feels the urge to consider "his own" all newGRFs which start with CA as he totally needs 65k newGRF IDs, hence he makes his newGRFs disable if they find some other newGRFs he considers inferior.
For no reason. But blaming anybody else for making a newGRF start with CA and making the newGRF incompatible for no reason, is bringing nothing but problems. And if it so is your decision, give people the true reason that it was YOUR decision to break YOUR newGRF if other newGRFs are found, but do not blame others.
P.S. The somewhat official convention is to give newGRF ID according to authors initials, hence CA could have many people.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 20 Jun 2014 07:57
by Mr Fox
Its working, except for the trains 1.6
I remove the Iron horse, but there is still one conflict left.
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 20 Jun 2014 08:06
by michael blunck
OzTrans wrote:
Code: Select all
4341121E C282031D926851308417966399E966CF Iron Horse iron-horse alpha-5
That one is the culprit ... this is a very young GRF, where its author has chosen to conflict with Canadian graphics file ... no further comment ...
Could be interesting to find out the original idea behind that grf-ID, e.g. by scanning #openttd logs.
regards
Michael
Re: Canadian Graphics by OzTrans [End-User Queries] ...
Posted: 20 Jun 2014 08:08
by Mr Fox
It seem that the Japaneses train set was the responsible for the conflict.
Now A question about a wagon. The Steam generator unit do what?