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Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 20 Feb 2009 23:49
by khamura
They look very, very good already. Superb work, George!
The distance between the first and the second trailer seems a tad too long though -- is that a limitation of the code?
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 22 Feb 2009 21:26
by George
khamura wrote:They look very, very good already. Superb work, George!
Blending trucks are a strange thing, but current code does not leave me the other choice.
khamura wrote:The distance between the first and the second trailer seems a tad too long though -- is that a limitation of the code?
Yes. Every part has at leas a length of 3/8. This the gap between parts.
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 23 Feb 2009 18:27
by andythenorth
Off topic, but George, you might like this (from one of my favourite blogs)
http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big- ... signe.html
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 23 Feb 2009 20:21
by George
They are not drawings

making a concept car is really a pain. Spitzer colany is unfinished yet

Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 25 Feb 2009 13:13
by atalantino
I might want to be a truck driver in 2020! Better looking than sportive cars!

Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 15 Mar 2009 20:06
by George
I'd like to announce the first concept GRF available. It is not playable, because RV’s characteristics are random, but gives the understanding of the concept. Before my next step, I’d like to get some feedback.
If the concept is accepted, the next step would be to provide trailers. There is one trailer already in (see Volvo box van), so you can get the understanding what would trailers be.
After trailers are provided, I’ll focus on characteristics. It would be a hard step, because realistic acceleration is not provided for RVs and balancing them would be hard.
Anyway, have a look and give me a feedback, please.
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 16 Mar 2009 13:46
by Cudar
I think they are very good. I like the LV4 very much, and I'm sure, that you'll make a good work on the LV5 too, George.

Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 16 Mar 2009 16:07
by peetleouf
I think your LV5 set is amazing, but i have just one question, why the Opel Blitz is articulated, it's look weird.
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 16 Mar 2009 16:45
by blitzkrieg
George wrote:I'd like to announce the first concept GRF available. It is not playable, because RV’s characteristics are random, but gives the understanding of the concept. Before my next step, I’d like to get some feedback.
If the concept is accepted, the next step would be to provide trailers. There is one trailer already in (see Volvo box van), so you can get the understanding what would trailers be.
After trailers are provided, I’ll focus on characteristics. It would be a hard step, because realistic acceleration is not provided for RVs and balancing them would be hard.
Anyway, have a look and give me a feedback, please.
Looks & works great!!
Have you shortened the spitzer trucks as compared to Lv4??
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 16 Mar 2009 17:27
by mrMann
Will there be a 32 bpp version, or is that asking too much, or am I being a pillock and missing what has already been said?

Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 16 Mar 2009 17:46
by George
peetleouf wrote:I think your LV5 set is amazing, but i have just one question, why the Opel Blitz is articulated, it's look weird.
Every truck looks weird because of articulation. But making them articulated, while the other trucks are not, would make replacing of vehicles really a pain, because you'd need to replace lorry bays too. Because of that, every vehicle in the set would be articulated. Even if it fits 8/8 template.
blitzkrieg wrote:Have you shortened the spitzer trucks as compared to Lv4??
I did not change the cabins. But I transformed semi-trailers into the truck bodies, so they can be called shortened.
mrMann wrote:Will there be a 32 bpp version, or is that asking too much, or am I being a pillock and missing what has already been said?

They are drawn, not rendered. That means 32 bpp version would never be available.
No comment about trailers. Did anybody try them?
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 28 Mar 2009 21:49
by Leanden
I think that buses should stay as they are to be perfectly honest, the buses in v4 seem fine, apart from the articulated ones. But i think all the lorries, and the articulated buses should be properly articulated at the articulation point.
Obviously the tunnel glitch is a problem, but how much do people actually use road tunnels??
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 29 Mar 2009 15:23
by mrMann
*raises hand*
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 29 Mar 2009 15:48
by Leanden
Do you spend all of your time watching your tunnels??
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 29 Mar 2009 21:12
by Sabret00th
I do spent some time on them...
(Wow, two people using road tunnels!

)
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 29 Mar 2009 21:55
by Leanden
Well what i'm getting at, is that the small graphical glitch is a reasonable trade off for the advantage of this brilliant GRF set.
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 29 Mar 2009 21:59
by Benny
+1 on the above post.
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 08 Apr 2009 17:38
by George
I've came to the next decision point.
I have to decide the capacity characteristics. Unfortunately, realistic acceleration is not provided for RVs in OTTD and future plans of this feature is not clean enough. I do not want to make the change when the support is provided. So I want to have some model to define characteristics.
Do anybody have any ideas?
P.S. My ideas would be kept in secret for some time to prevent loosing possible alternatives.
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 08 Apr 2009 21:47
by 555gln22
It's a good question. One of the things that was a little annoying in v4 was that there was not much difference between most of the trucks. Perhaps if you could stagger them so that there was a "smaller" vehicle in between each big one? for example:
Opel: Small, Slow, Cheap
International: Big, Slow, Really expensive
Maz: Small, Medium, Medium
Mercedes: Big, Medium, Expensive
Skoda: Small, Medium, cheap
Volvo: Big, Medium, cheap
Spitzer: Big, Fast, Expensive
Make the difference in running costs enough to mean that you don't want to automatically update to the newest vehicle as soon as it comes out, and I think it will make it more fun.
Re: Long vehicles v5. Planning
Posted: 09 Apr 2009 10:00
by Laui
I agree to the post above... It's quite boring to just upgrade to the next series cause its more efficient. There shout be a difference, might not for every series but at least to have a reason to keep one truck over two or three series... for example one big but slow one for big capacities and one fast but medium size as a feeder...
about the capacity... As far as I know the Opel Blitz original was only able to load about 3 ton... I thing that shoud be at least 5 t and on the other end ... In Germany your only aloud to get 40 t on the road... I don't know about other countries... I thing the capacity is also addicted to the engine power, so there shoud be a relation.
That's all I can Help...
But thanks a lot for your work George, your one of those who keep me playing
