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Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 17 Sep 2008 19:17
by JamieLei
I'm quite short (I found out the other day I'm exactly in-line with the 10th percentile, so 90% of adults are taller than me) so things like that aren't an issue. I even too two 7-hour plane journeys in economy and quite comfortably put a rucksack on the floor between my legs. I do the same on trains too - ah the advantages of being small.

Also I don't think the 153 does the LM livery justice. Like - the 153 looks good with it on, but the LM livery looks crap on a 153 if you get what I mean

CrossCountry interior HST refurbs

Posted: 09 Oct 2008 20:44
by JamieLei
So CrossCountry have refurbished a HST rake which is looking highly impressive on the inside, especially with regard to the ceiling and lighting. If I'm not mistaken, the seats are identical to those that GNER fitted on the Mallard sets. The carpet is also looking far more suited to the HST than on a 170 :)

With 4 more HSTs working the Plymouth-Edinburgh route, more services can be doubled up, providing much needed capacity improvements on CrossCountry.

(Pics from this week's RMOL)

Re: CrossCountry interior HST refurbs

Posted: 09 Oct 2008 20:56
by Ameecher
This would have done fine in this thread that you started not too long ago. It's even on the first page still.

The interior doesn't look too shabby though. Had my doubts about the exterior ever since I saw it at Doncaster the other week.

Re: CrossCountry interior HST refurbs

Posted: 09 Oct 2008 21:07
by JamieLei
Sigh... more backseat moderation. A mod can easily merge the threads should they want to.

I quite like the exterior - it looks pretty smart. Also it seems to have become the style to have a solid vertical block of yellow cutting halfway through the headlamps on the front of the HSTs. Although Grand Central breaks the mould by having a ridiculously small amount of yellow (which looks ridiculous anyway).

Re: CrossCountry interior HST refurbs

Posted: 09 Oct 2008 21:10
by Ameecher
JamieLei wrote:Sigh... more backseat moderation. A mod can easily merge the threads should they want to.
Frankly couldn't care.
I quite like the exterior - it looks pretty smart. Also it seems to have become the style to have a solid vertical block of yellow cutting halfway through the headlamps on the front of the HSTs. Although Grand Central breaks the mould by having a ridiculously small amount of yellow (which looks ridiculous anyway).
The colours of the coaches don't work well, it looks like it half way through a repaint and be released into traffic anyway.

Re: CrossCountry interior HST refurbs

Posted: 10 Oct 2008 01:20
by Dave
JamieLei wrote:Sigh... more backseat moderation. A mod can easily merge the threads should they want to.
Quite possibly the most hypocritical comment of the week. No wait... Of the year.

It might even be all time.

Re: CrossCountry interior HST refurbs

Posted: 10 Oct 2008 18:00
by beeb375
Dave Worley wrote:Quite possibly the most hypocritical comment of the week. No wait... Of the year.

It might even be all time.
Are you sure? What about, ooh I dunno... HALF of the words that you have ever written on this forum XD [/twat mode]

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 10 Oct 2008 18:09
by Badger
Saw that HST pulling out of Leeds last week, looked pretty damn nice in my opinion.

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 11 Oct 2008 00:35
by Dreamcatcher
TBH, I wish those hst sets of XC worked past Plymouth and into Cornwall as they are a lot better than the voyagers :( I've made it a habbit when travelling from Truro to Plymouth to use an FGW hst rake simply because its a better (if slightly more cramped legroom wise) ride

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 11 Oct 2008 08:12
by EXTspotter
So happy to see them. HSTs are wonderful. Might see some down at Hackney Marshes later (the GWML goes stright through them on an embankment, near Newton Abbot Racecourse, plus there are loads of blackberries there.)

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 11 Oct 2008 23:49
by JamieLei
Psyvhotic Baboon wrote:TBH, I wish those hst sets of XC worked past Plymouth and into Cornwall as they are a lot better than the voyagers :( I've made it a habbit when travelling from Truro to Plymouth to use an FGW hst rake simply because its a better (if slightly more cramped legroom wise) ride
On the other hand, I've heard a (non rail-enthusiast) remark that he always tried to get the Virgin Train rather than the First train since the windows were bigger and you get a better view :) - different people like different things I guess

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 12 Oct 2008 11:56
by Kevo00
Really? Surely the Voyagers have more seats without a view.

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 12 Oct 2008 12:13
by JamieLei
That's what i thought...!

But thenagain at least the Voyagers tend to be on time ;)

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 12 Oct 2008 16:34
by Dave
There are around 7 seats in each carriage with what Virgin describe as "restricted/no view".

The windows are frigging huge though. Pendolinos, on the other hand, are horrible things. Claustrophobic, small windows, and they don't work.

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 12 Oct 2008 17:39
by andysine
Dave Worley wrote:The windows are frigging huge though. Pendolinos, on the other hand, are horrible things. Claustrophobic, small windows, and they don't work.
I thought that was to stop people getting motion sickness because of the tilting. I could be to make the interior more like an aircraft? (I don't know why you'd really want to though!)

Anyway, they are pretty nasty if you like looking out of the window...

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 18 Oct 2008 13:16
by JamieLei
The 17 Thameslink* 377s are now under construction in FCC colours :)

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From the Thameslink Programme website

*Will be sub-leased by Southern

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 18 Oct 2008 16:45
by beeb375
NatEx East Coast's HST stock interiors look arse, despite only being refurbished not so long ago, I believe? Who decided to make everything inside brown? The Mk4 stock is much nicer.

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 18 Oct 2008 17:14
by Ameecher
You must have got one of the old ones. The HSTs have been refurbished to Mallard standard (ie Mk4 standard) from the dreary 1970s Intercity corporate beige.

Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 18 Oct 2008 17:44
by beeb375
Bah, I was in one of these:
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Re: Coat of paint (Was:CrossCountry HST and Rebranding)

Posted: 18 Oct 2008 17:56
by Ameecher
That'd be the unrefurbished one ;)

Edit:
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that's what they should look like!