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Alltaken wrote:Morguefile.com

Images are with various licenses, so Sergej should really look at each he downloads. most people only require an email "after" its being used in the game officially. normally the artists only want to know out of curiosity.

Sergej DON'T EMAIL ANYONE FROM THE SITE. let someone else do it, for the particular images that are "officially used" otherwise its a waste of their time.

Alltaken

I welcome you!

You me excuse, but I nothing have understood from your text.

Can somebody translate your letter to Russian?

Sergej

Sergej_S wrote:

Alltaken wrote:Morguefile.com

Images are with various licenses, so Sergej should really look at each he downloads. most people only require an email "after" its being used in the game officially. normally the artists only want to know out of curiosity.

Sergej DON'T EMAIL ANYONE FROM THE SITE. let someone else do it, for the particular images that are "officially used" otherwise its a waste of their time.

Alltaken

I welcome you!

You me excuse, but I nothing have understood from your text.

Can somebody translate your letter to Russian?

Sergej

sorry, don't know russian, but I can try to rephrase:

Alltaken asks you that you do not send an email to people of Morguefile.com.
The openttd team will send them an email if the photos are used in the game. They will only send an email for the photos that are used, but not for the photos we do not use. That way the people of morguefile.com will not spend time on photos that are not used.

Also, they are better at english, so it is easier for them to send the email.

(I tried to phrase it so that it will translate better using automatic translators)

Korenn wrote:

Sergej_S wrote:

Alltaken wrote:Morguefile.com

Images are with various licenses, so Sergej should really look at each he downloads. most people only require an email "after" its being used in the game officially. normally the artists only want to know out of curiosity.

Sergej DON'T EMAIL ANYONE FROM THE SITE. let someone else do it, for the particular images that are "officially used" otherwise its a waste of their time.

Alltaken

I welcome you!

You me excuse, but I nothing have understood from your text.

Can somebody translate your letter to Russian?

Sergej

sorry, don't know russian, but I can try to rephrase:

Alltaken asks you that you do not send an email to people of Morguefile.com.
The openttd team will send them an email if the photos are used in the game. They will only send an email for the photos that are used, but not for the photos we do not use. That way the people of morguefile.com will not spend time on photos that are not used.

Also, they are better at english, so it is easier for them to send the email.

(I tried to phrase it so that it will translate better using automatic translators)

I welcome all!

I nothing understand from these two texts!!!

I sent nobody of any letters!!!

I do not understand - about what there is a speech???

Sergej.

Sergej_S: (heres my attempt!)

Alltaken said that the pictures may have different licenses...
(the ones you have used for the different scenario images)

Some may be free, some may be copyright.

The people who own those graphics will need to be emailed before using there work for Ottd to get their permission.

But....It is good that you sent 'No Letters'.

Do not do so.

A different person will do, in the future.

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I shall say the same in here as I said in the other thread you are now regularly posting in. Keep on Topic. This is not just an area for you to transfer across to from the last locked topic.

Here is a failed attempt at writing your last post Ben, in a babelfish english -> russian translation:

Sergej_S: (heres моя попытка!) Alltaken сказало что изображения могут иметь по-разному лицензии... (одни, котор вы использовали для по-разному изображений сценария) Некоторые могут быть свободно, некоторые могут быть авторским правом. Люди имеют те графики быть emailed перед использовать там работу для Ottd для того чтобы получить их позволение. Но... .It хорошо что вы не послали ' никакие письма. Не сделайте так. По-разному персона сделает, in the future. Я скажу эти же внутри здесь я сказал в другой резьбе, котор вы теперь регулярно вывешиваете внутри. Содержание на теме. Это не справедливо зона для вас, котор нужно перенести поперек к от последней locked теме.

And the post of Korenn:

Alltaken спрашивает вам что вы не посылаете email к людям Morguefile.com. Команда openttd пошлет ими email если фотоие использованы в игре. Они только пошлют email для фотоих использованы, но не для фотоих, котор мы не используем. Та дорога люди morguefile.com не потратит время на фотоих не использованы. Также, они более лучшие на английской языке, поэтому легке для их послать email. (я попытался сформулировать его так НОП он переведет более лучше использующ автоматические переводчиков)

I hope this will sort things up a bit.

(I don't even know what I just uploaded, but what the heck. )

I all the same nothing could understand.

I do not know a site Morguefile.com.

I anything did not send them, any letters either photos or files.

All authors, which I specified in the list, have given the consent to display of the jobs.

Sergej

hmmz make a poll=> who wants sergej kicked?:P


me:P

(imho hes very very annoying)

Or better yet, "Has Sergej earned itself an entry in your killfile yet?"

(Don't ask "Who" unless the possible answers are names.)

sheesh people, talking about disrespect!!

Okay, that was like ganging up on the man. We have had problems in the past too often. I would rather have another Russian speaking forum member to explain it to Sergej so all is in good weather again.

Banning/kicking/killfiling someone because he/she does not understand is a bit drastic. Altough it could be me. And yes I know about the rules for speaking/understanding proper English, but that is not the main point now is it?

(It was about the copyrights.)

This is how the cold war started right?

Mr. X wrote:Okay, that was like ganging up on the man. We have had problems in the past too often. I would rather have another Russian speaking forum member to explain it to Sergej so all is in good weather again.

Banning/kicking/killfiling someone because he/she does not understand is a bit drastic. Altough it could be me. And yes I know about the rules for speaking/understanding proper English, but that is not the main point now is it?

(It was about the copyrights.)

the reason i asked him to be banned/kicked whatever is because he KEEPS ignoring ALL rights, he keeps posting a stupid list of authors without stating what they made, my name is on the list, my work aint on the picture so PLZ ANYONE tell him that he SHOULD

1) make better lists, get permissions and so on...
2) learn english, translate pages, and most of all, listen to others:P

ZxBiohazardZx wrote:

Mr. X wrote:Okay, that was like ganging up on the man. We have had problems in the past too often. I would rather have another Russian speaking forum member to explain it to Sergej so all is in good weather again.

Banning/kicking/killfiling someone because he/she does not understand is a bit drastic. Altough it could be me. And yes I know about the rules for speaking/understanding proper English, but that is not the main point now is it?

(It was about the copyrights.)

the reason i asked him to be banned/kicked whatever is because he KEEPS ignoring ALL rights, he keeps posting a stupid list of authors without stating what they made, my name is on the list, my work aint on the picture so PLZ ANYONE tell him that he SHOULD

1) make better lists, get permissions and so on...
2) learn english, translate pages, and most of all, listen to others:P

he is listening to others, but there's some major miscommunication going on. Sergej is not a bad guy as far as I can tell, in fact he seems very smart, the problem is that he uses automatic translators to read these posts which make things incomprehensible at times.

Just look at what his translator makes of "open source": "free assembly". now imagine that happening the other way around as well and I can understand perfectly well why it seems he's not listening to what you're saying.... he can't understand it!

You could argue that if he can't properly understand the forums he shouldn't post here, but I think that's just bigotry. He has added some valuable stuff to this forum. Before Sergej started posting his screenshots of what a 32bpp openttd would look like interest was at a low. Now, we have lots of people working on graphics and coding again, which I think is a good thing.

as Mr. X said, ideally another russion reader of this forum could help him to translate posts that are particularly difficult for him to read. In the mean time, you should warn him that he has misunderstood something when you think it is the case, instead of telling him to leave.

i do agree he does great work but his lists need to change.....

I just don't understand why can't he even attempt to learn english?
My dad can atleast read english good and could write a half good text and he NEVER learned it at school becouse there were no english lessons at that time.
My mother learned all english that she knows now by herself too so the point that "We learned only german military language at school" means nothing as your ability to learn doesn't wanish after school, yes it becomes harder but if you aren't lazy you can still learn stuff.

Ben_Robbins_ wrote:Sergej_S: (heres my attempt!)

Alltaken said that the pictures may have different licenses...
(the ones you have used for the different scenario images)

Some may be free, some may be copyright.

The people who own those graphics will need to be emailed before using there work for Ottd to get their permission.

But....It is good that you sent 'No Letters'.

Do not do so.

A different person will do, in the future.

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I shall say the same in here as I said in the other thread you are now regularly posting in. Keep on Topic. This is not just an area for you to transfer across to from the last locked topic.

Я не могу понять причины того , что сейчас происходит

Привожу список зарубежных авторов , которые дали согласие на использование своих графических изображений для показов и выпуска предварительных версий наборов :

Именно эти графические образы были использованы при показе копий экрана.

Прошу сообщить конкретного человека , права которого , по мнению администрации , были нарушены ...

I can not understand the reasons that now occurs.

I bring the list of the foreign authors, which have agreed to use of the graphic images for displays and release of the preliminary versions of sets:

Alltaken , New Zealand
Aracirion ,
Athanasios , Greece
BerberJesus , Germany
Brupje , Netherlands
Czestmyr , Czechia
Dmh_mac , Netherlands
Dylan , England
Juancarniglia , Argentina
Thgergo , Hungary
Wacki , Czechia
ZxBiohazardZx , Netherlands

These graphic images were used at display of copies of the screen.

I ask to inform of the concrete man, which rights, in opinion of administration, were broken...

Sergej

Sergej_S wrote:Я не могу понять причины того , что сейчас происходит

Привожу список зарубежных авторов , которые дали согласие на использование своих графических изображений для показов и выпуска предварительных версий наборов :

Именно эти графические образы были использованы при показе копий экрана.

Прошу сообщить конкретного человека , права которого , по мнению администрации , были нарушены ...

Funny, babelfish get's me this:

4 I cannot understand the reason for the fact that now occurs I lead the list of the foreign authors, who consented to the use of their graphic representations for the demonstrations and the release of the preliminary versions of the collections: Specifically, these graphic means were used for the demonstration of the copies of screen. I please to report the concrete person, whose rights, in the opinion of administration, were disrupted...

Almost the same but I like the way online translators put everything out of context.

Anyway, don't get me wrong Sergej, I like your work and effort you put here. And I encourage you to keep on working on it.

sergej пожалуйста удостоверьтесь, что графический список авторов только включает людей, которые воздействовали на графику, показанную на картине

hope he understands that

sergej please make sure the graphics list of authors only includes people that worked on graphics shown in the picture

Sergej_S: I didn't say you were currently using peoples work without permission. I said that you are still doing the other things that you were asked not to do, and now also converting other peoples topics into your own, and ignoring requests to keep on topic.

If there is anything that you are having difficulty understanding, please don't just continue to do what you’re doing on the assumption that its ok. Ask if it is ok, and hopefully a yes/no answer can get threw the translation barrier, and clear things up.

I could point this message at several people here, but I won't.
Instead, I'm just going to suggest that everyone attempting to communicate with Sergey read this. It describes the concept of simple English, use of which would ease communication through automatic translators.